Nigel Taylor, Mendip Cave Rescue's longest serving cave warden, said: "It's a very small element of people up north who want to get the 'right to roam' extended underground and into caves
Jopo said:Putting aside my views on CROW I find the article disturbing inasmuch as cave rescue has always, well certainly for the last 46 years in South Wales, kept completely out of caving politics.
I, personally, find the use of cave rescue as a argument of where (or how to cave) a retrograde step which could lead to cave rescue teams to be seen as policemen and may lesson the almost universal support cave rescue enjoys.
Jopo
bazdog said:Whatever the problems are elsewhere in the country, in the Mendips the status quo is working well and I am glad to see that there are no plans for it to be changed."
If this is the mendip attitude then shame on you all and maybe it's best if you left the bca and did your own thing separately instead of stuffing everyone else
Jopo said:Putting aside my views on CROW I find the article disturbing inasmuch as cave rescue has always, well certainly for the last 46 years in South Wales, kept completely out of caving politics.
I, personally, find the use of cave rescue as a argument of where (or how to cave) a retrograde step which could lead to cave rescue teams to be seen as policemen and may lesson the almost universal support cave rescue enjoys.
Jopo
It's the local paper and those images were rolled out with the recent Swildons cave rescue story; a bit of editorial recycling...PeteHall said:I like the photo and survey from Swildon's, that well known cave on CRoW land with access restrictions in place to protect it...
...oh, hang on a minute, it isn't on CRoW land, nor is it's access restricted save for a goodwill fee of ?1, which can hardly be seen as a conservation measure!
Duncan S said:One of my images by the way
CRoW land is detailed here: http://www.openaccess.naturalengland.org.uk/wps/portal/oasys/maps/MapSearch/!ut/p/c5/tY3JDoIwFEW_xS94T8RSlsUaqJYikwIbQoIxEBkSCQ5fL8a1boz3Ls8dIIPJbTFWp2KourY4QwIZyaWNxNFWaHpRsEaBwuNyI-Ye6hNPSY4fxPCv7QMkqOdhTXv3PiTysRqj-uFrbh2iy93bhbOrKuWu3Aexxbiqykj8_Ji9EsSWdG55aKKvKApq6BpztoiL5Zt_2VdO1xwhhcz4-GPrEEFqQd_E8ShJQBWbPQEnkxWS/dl3/d3/L0lDU0dZcHBpZ3BSQ2dwUkNncFJDZ3BSQS9ZSVVJQUFJSU1DRUFNQUFDQ0VBTUFBS0dDRUFNQUlLT0lHQU9CSkJKRk1FQU1BQk5ETkRGTkxITEhGTFBBdkFsUEEhIS80QzFiOFVBcE1rRW9oU1pNSlFpa3lVU2pGSms0bEJJIS83X0xHMDZIMkMwOU9UUkUwSTBJT0RMSkkxT0c0LyUwanNwJTBPcGVuQWNjZXNzJTBfcmx2aWQuanNwL29hVmlld0lkL09BMDA0L19ydmlwLyUwanNwJTBPcGVuQWNjZXNzJTBNYXBTZWFyY2hSZXN1bHRzLmpzcC9fcmFwL3BjX01hcFNlYXJjaFJlc3VsdHNQYWdlQ29kZS5kb1JlcXVlc3RMaW5rQWN0aW9uL3NlbGVjdGVkUm93TnVtLzY!/Duncan S said:I imagine CROW could apply to the Burrington caves and maybe Cuthberts and Upper Flood as they are all on land frequently accessed by the public.
Correct.Duncan S said:If I'm right, then Mendip has a mix of CROW access to cave entrances.
Not ALL Mendip cavers!bograt said:...this seems to suggest that all Mendip cavers have set themselves up as the righteous defenders of the status quo.
PeteHall said:Not ALL Mendip cavers!bograt said:...this seems to suggest that all Mendip cavers have set themselves up as the righteous defenders of the status quo.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but "cave wardens" does suggest he is talking on behalf of MCR?But as cavers - and cave wardens - we strongly feel that the sanctity and security of the caves needs to be protected
Maj said:The views expressed in the Wells Journal article are not the views of MCR. Those interviewed did not speak in any way from the MCR perspective. The Wells journal have themselves made the connection to MCR.
MCR remains neutral with regard to CRoW and has not discussed or have any plans to discus CRoW with regard to whether it should or should not apply to caving.
Dave King,
MCR Warden
bograt said:Maybe this should be made clear to the rag in question??
PeteHall said:Not ALL Mendip cavers!bograt said:...this seems to suggest that all Mendip cavers have set themselves up as the righteous defenders of the status quo.