I think Descent magazine is fine. Way better than anything BCA have yet produced.
It SHOULD be better than anything the BCA produce. The BCA is staffed by volunteers and Descent is produced by a publishing company.
Why publish the STOP artical in decent, its published already publicly. Anyone without a computer can go to the local library and get online, for free apparently. Just needs a net capable friend to go with them and help them out and go read the articals.
To us this forum is free thanks to bubba to pays out cuz he likes us so... Cheers man!
Good idea - but explain how people without pc's/internet would even have heard of this debate. Have mixed with many cavers in the last few days and not heard the Petzl stop thread mentioned at all.
Have mixed with many cavers in the last few days and not heard the Petzl stop thread mentioned at all.
the internet is not a replacement for the written word. there are all sorts of problems if you beleive this to be the case.
1) access - you can't read a "webzine" while sat in a car in the dales waiting for your mates to come out.
1.5) forcing people with no access to go down the library is not fair.
2) permenance - the web is constantly changing and is not backed up. in 3 years time when this forum is shut down, all the info will be lost.
at the moment you can look up in an index and pick up a copy of descent from 10 years ago and read a report on the discoveries in such and such a cave.
I fail to see why some people seem to be happy to write articles for webzines and websites for free but not for magazines.
and sexy as hiking.
The web *is* backed up to a large extent.
I'd have no idea where to get a 10 year old descent from.
3.141592) All of the above is misleading
... but lets face it, its not much more than a replacement for conversations at the pub for the digital age.
MSD : i thin kyou're now talking about an open source "how not to kill yourself undergound" webite/eBook.
Quote from: "Cave_Troll"MSD : i thin kyou're now talking about an open source "how not to kill yourself undergound" webite/eBook.Life on a line is pretty damn fine free resource:http://www.draftlight.net/lifeonaline/
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