Thanks Badlad. I was fortunate enough to go to Banff a couple of times, as did Clive, and with Paul Diffley too. In response to ptpeaty… a part of our reason for going was to look at all of their film submissions (not just those selected for the Festival or the Tour) to find films that we may want to encourage submission of to KMF. I obviously made a beeline for anything caving related, which over the years amounted to one film made by a chap called John Waller, who also made ‘Treeverse’. KMF also received a list each year of Banff’s submissions, and there were only ever a couple over the many years i was involved. Not sure why this is!? KMF received quite a few for a couple of years pre 2010. The Banff Festival Team were, and are, very open minded, so it’s not by design that caving related films are not submitted or shown. I would suggest it’s a cultural thing/habit, and would strongly encourage submission of caving films to them, as well as lecture proposals around books published etc. since they are also very strong on literature.