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Title: Things to do in the Dales with kids and dogs
Post by: Katie on August 15, 2021, 10:27:33 am
Hi all,
We are in the dales for 3/4 days next week with our three kids (ages 7, 5 and 4) and our 3 dogs (aged 12, 2 and 2) and looking for good days out off the beaten track.
We live in the Peak district and I am assuming the Dales is currently like the Peak - heaving with people in the well known spots but still fairly quiet if you know where to go....
However I know where to go for an adventure with the kids in the Peak but not in the Dales!
So any suggestions for good places to visit that won't be too busy?
Particularly river walks with good paddle/ swimming spots, walks with little caves/ entrances to explore, etc

Pre- kids we caved in the Dales quite a bit but haven't visited much since.
I think they will love running in and out of the Hoffman kiln near Settle so we will probably visit that but after more ideas please!
Also pubs with good food that kid/ dog friendly!
Thanks
Title: Re: Things to do in the Dales with kids and dogs
Post by: Fjell on August 15, 2021, 02:43:50 pm
Getting hold of some version of Wainwrights “Walks in Limestone Country” will fill a holiday with interesting walks that kids can do in the central area. He had a interest in collecting cave entrances, so that features. Ribblehead has the most accessible caves for young children.

A jaunt east to Littondale and Langstrothdale is always worth it  Langstroth Cave is OK for kids with through trip and visit to menacing upstream sump. The river is one of the finest spots in England for a picnic and playing in the water. Carry on to Hawes for tea, where upstairs to the Wensleydale Pantry for fare that would keep an army on the road.

For more swimming, then upstream on the Lune from Killington Bridge gets you into a rock gorge with lots of pools. There is an offical geology walk (ye Olde Dent Fault) east of Sedbergh in Garsdale (below the big layby). Also lots of swimming in rock and a little cave.

Title: Re: Things to do in the Dales with kids and dogs
Post by: Speleofish on August 15, 2021, 03:23:23 pm
It's a bit of a trek, but Ashgill Force near Alston is a good way to amuse small adventurous children. If you approach from the top, the path scrambles through a little cave (which doesn't feature in Northern Caves) which offers a bit of fun and you can scramble behind the waterfall itself. The valley downstream is quite pretty too.
Title: Re: Things to do in the Dales with kids and dogs
Post by: Fulk on August 15, 2021, 03:51:23 pm
Barbondale's a lovely spot, although a bit 'bleak' by comparison with some of the dales. There's a big stream with lots of pools (some probably deep enough for kids to swim in) and, as it is less well known than some of the other dales, it tends to be a bit quieter.
Title: Re: Things to do in the Dales with kids and dogs
Post by: Paul Marvin on August 15, 2021, 04:43:31 pm
Phew 3 kids and 3 dogs to keep happy now thats a challenge in itself .  :'( :lol:
Title: Re: Things to do in the Dales with kids and dogs
Post by: Paul Marvin on August 15, 2021, 04:44:39 pm
It's a bit of a trek, but Ashgill Force near Alston is a good way to amuse small adventurous children. If you approach from the top, the path scrambles through a little cave (which doesn't feature in Northern Caves) which offers a bit of fun and you can scramble behind the waterfall itself. The valley downstream is quite pretty too.

Now that IS a good suggestion !    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Things to do in the Dales with kids and dogs
Post by: mikem on August 15, 2021, 06:09:38 pm
Dentdale too... (but don't let Mike Harding know that I told you)
Title: Re: Things to do in the Dales with kids and dogs
Post by: Fulk on August 15, 2021, 06:40:15 pm
I think I'm right in saying that Mike Harding no longer lives in Dent.
Title: Re: Things to do in the Dales with kids and dogs
Post by: Alan Sp8 on August 15, 2021, 06:50:44 pm
Kid and dog friendly pub try the Helwith Bridge - you may have to book for an evening meal but they serve meals at all times of the day
Walk up the river from Helwith to Horton and back along the river or drop down to Stainforth Foss - Park above Langcliffe and you have Jubilee Caves Albert Cave Wet Cave Victoria cave and Attermire cave if things are going well.
 Then again you could walk from Stainforth or Austwick to Feizor a very good cafe at Feizor along with the Cafe at Knights Stainforth and most of this is a stones throw from the Hoffman Kiln at Langcliffe no need to travel miles extra
Title: Re: Things to do in the Dales with kids and dogs
Post by: Mark on August 15, 2021, 07:42:09 pm
Just google

"hidden gem, ideal for kids, that's only an hour from Leeds"

you will get lots of ideas from all the surrounding newspaper websites, thats what's ruined all the hidden gem's in the Peak District.

I have seen families crossing the road to Waterfall Swallet, with lilo's and dingies, on the advice of the Sheffield Star, even though there is hardly any water and chest high nettles to get there.


Title: Re: Things to do in the Dales with kids and dogs
Post by: Ian P on August 15, 2021, 08:46:51 pm
Runscar and Thistle caves at Ribblehead

2 “Friendly” short linear caves with  multiple entrances.
(Some sections a bit more challenging than others )



Title: Re: Things to do in the Dales with kids and dogs
Post by: Speleofish on August 15, 2021, 09:04:49 pm
And, there's always Borrins Moor Cave. Somewhere that kept me and my very small sister happy for hours. And Upper Long Churn. We also liked Wilsons Cave because it had a very dead sheep in the entrance. This kept us occupied for a very long time, during which we completed its dismemberment.

We drove home to Northumberland in a rainstorm with all windows open. My mother was reluctant to go caving ever again..
Title: Re: Things to do in the Dales with kids and dogs
Post by: Speleofish on August 15, 2021, 09:18:43 pm
And finally, God's Bridge...

Lots of bedding planes into which you can insert small children...
Title: Re: Things to do in the Dales with kids and dogs
Post by: Katie on August 15, 2021, 09:19:10 pm
Thanks for all the suggestions! Sounds like we need to stay longer than 3 nights!
I will have a look into some of the suggestions!

Phew 3 kids and 3 dogs to keep happy now thats a challenge in itself .  :'( :lol:

To be honest they are mostly pretty easy to entertain. A puddle and a stick is all they need. It is the adults who like a bit more!
Title: Re: Things to do in the Dales with kids and dogs
Post by: mikem on August 16, 2021, 06:31:10 am
Seems he is now nearer Settle:
https://www.mikeharding.co.uk/mike-hardings-yorkshire-dales/
Title: Re: Things to do in the Dales with kids and dogs
Post by: Paul Marvin on August 16, 2021, 08:25:34 am
Just google

"hidden gem, ideal for kids, that's only an hour from Leeds"

you will get lots of ideas from all the surrounding newspaper websites, thats what's ruined all the hidden gem's in the Peak District.

I have seen families crossing the road to Waterfall Swallet, with lilo's and dingies, on the advice of the Sheffield Star, even though there is hardly any water and chest high nettles to get there.




Even the tiniest bit of water and the lilos are out  :lol:
Title: Re: Things to do in the Dales with kids and dogs
Post by: Badlad on August 16, 2021, 09:44:20 am
Basically avoid the Waterfalls walk, Ribblehead and Malham and you should be ok. 

There is that swimming spot just up from Cowan Bridge.  Park by the houses at the end of Low lane and walk up (about a Km or so.

Also try Snaizeholme red squirrel trail - best to google for directions but between Ribblehead and Hawes.  Might want to leave the dogs behind for that one.

Happy holidays
Title: Re: Things to do in the Dales with kids and dogs
Post by: ChrisJC on August 16, 2021, 09:53:19 am
I suggest anywhere in Swaledale.

Chris.
Title: Re: Things to do in the Dales with kids and dogs
Post by: Pitlamp on August 16, 2021, 10:37:54 am
If you like red squirrels you might try Kinsey Water Park, where I think children can "adopt" them. You can also see one of the more enigmatic resurgences in the Dales (Sike Gill Rising) which is on the short trail you can do there.

Malham has been seriously manic over the school holiday period; there's maybe something to be said for saving that for a different time of year. Ribblehead has also been very busy but there is potential kid's caving there (e.g. the Runscar system, depending on ages). Exploring Thorns Gill is a fine little adventure for young 'uns, with appropriate adult supervision.
Title: Re: Things to do in the Dales with kids and dogs
Post by: AR on August 16, 2021, 10:51:45 am
I used to like Hebden Gill and Grassington Moor as a good place to get far from the sodding crowds when I lived up that way, but given that there are likely to be sheep around and some of the mineshafts aren't well capped to say the least, maybe not the best place to have young kids and dogs!
Title: Re: Things to do in the Dales with kids and dogs
Post by: Paul Marvin on August 16, 2021, 11:32:06 am
I used to like Hebden Gill and Grassington Moor as a good place to get far from the sodding crowds when I lived up that way, but given that there are likely to be sheep around and some of the mineshafts aren't well capped to say the least, maybe not the best place to have young kids and dogs!

" Far from the sodding crowds " love it   :lol:
Title: Re: Things to do in the Dales with kids and dogs
Post by: Katie on August 25, 2021, 09:56:42 pm
Thanks for all the suggestions. We are back from a 3 days in the Dales where we managed at least a small cave everyday.
A bit different to all the Dales weekends we went on pre-kids with proper caving every day, but on the right side eventually they will grow up and leave home right???

Monday we had a little explore in Yordas with kids and dogs. Then drove to Cowan bridge and walked up Leck Beck to the gorge-y bit where you can swim and jump in. As we left we saw two other people on their way upstream - the only others we saw all walk. (they said we were the first people they had ever seen there and they go regularly!) Tea and cake in Bernies and a little play at Ingleton playground finished off the day.
Tuesday we went to Thorns gill and had a scramble and swim. We also had a little explore of Katnot cave which was great! However the stream got a bit deep for my shorts so we didn't reach the end. Afterwards we went to the Helwith bridge for lunch which was great
Today we visited the Hoffman kiln and surrounds then had a picnic outside Jubillee cave. The kids and dogs all enjoyed various short through trips in there until it was time to head home to the Peak.

Had a great time in the Dales and great suggestions from UKcaving for less busy/ popular spots for adventures.
Title: Re: Things to do in the Dales with kids and dogs
Post by: Rob on August 25, 2021, 10:08:35 pm
A few snaps from the three caves.

Thanks again for all the suggestions on here. Plenty to go back to also :-)
Title: Re: Things to do in the Dales with kids and dogs
Post by: mikem on August 25, 2021, 11:26:43 pm
There is a group working on fencing off the shafts on grassington moor (& the leadmining trail us interesting, if Spartan). Aysgarth falls was the other place best avoided - both car parks had full signs out when we drove past midweek.
Title: Re: Things to do in the Dales with kids and dogs
Post by: droid on August 26, 2021, 08:35:10 am
Seems he is now nearer Settle:
https://www.mikeharding.co.uk/mike-hardings-yorkshire-dales/

He lived in Selside last I heard.

But that was a couple of decades ago...
Title: Re: Things to do in the Dales with kids and dogs
Post by: ttxela2 on August 26, 2021, 08:57:40 am
Thanks for all the suggestions. We are back from a 3 days in the Dales where we managed at least a small cave everyday.
A bit different to all the Dales weekends we went on pre-kids with proper caving every day, but on the right side eventually they will grow up and leave home right???


Based on current experience the first 30 years are the worst......
Title: Re: Things to do in the Dales with kids and dogs
Post by: Katie on August 26, 2021, 10:45:14 am
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Based on current experience the first 30 years are the worst......

Something to look forward to then....
Title: Re: Things to do in the Dales with kids and dogs
Post by: ChrisJC on August 26, 2021, 03:41:04 pm
Based on current experience the first 30 years are the worst......

To be fair Alex, revenge is sweet - becoming a Youtube megastar in your 1990 motorhome must be of epic embarrassment to any relative under 40!

Chris.
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