Parc Mine - red rope

ChrisJC

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We did a bit of exploring in Parc yesterday and found a red rope hanging down from a wet shaft.

There was a note at the bottom saying 'No red one' or 'No redone' signed Nige.

Who is Nige? And were does the rope go?

Chris.
 

royfellows

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If it was going up a stope with water running down on the no 2 level it could be up into Gorlan. The other interesting area is where there are ladders and air pipes going up stope. This leads to one of the last working areas with an end tipper and stemming cartridges made up in old newspapers. The stemming cartridges are what a certain idiot reported on in a newspaper article as 'hoards of gelignite' or similar. For anyone mystified, stemming is made up from rock dust.
 

ChrisJC

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Not there Roy. It's going up from Parc 3 just inbye of the choke dam. Studying my July 1901 survey (by C. Kneebone), it does show a rise from what we now call Parc Level 3 (was Intermediate Level) up to what used to be called Parc Level 3. Old Parc Level 3 is a short level that goes to day.
So I suspect it's another way in, but I haven't poked around on the surface to find out. Certainly climbing up from the bottom would have been heroic.

Chris.
 

Cantclimbtom

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Well red is danger and orange means warning. That's why you should always get white petzl ropes not the orange ones as they're unlucky.

Assuming Nige is short for Nigel, it's actually a rare first name, once common now rare. Rarer still would be a Welsh mine explorer called Nigel. Apart from Nigel Chapman? Anyone think of any other possibilities?
 

royfellows

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Off topic but maybe of interest. Just inside no 2 is a small stope with timbering. Climbing up that leads to alevel which broke to day but now buried by the scree slope just above.
 

Willy Eckerslyke

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Chris, was this the wet shaft with pipework visible when looking up through the drips, and lots of timber piled to the side of the level?
If so, it's the old ladderway from which we "borrowed" the ladders that now fill the gaps in the ladderway down from Parc 2. In our defence, they were hanging very precariously in danger of falling.

No idea about the red rope or Nige though, we always removed our ropes after each trip. With that quantity of falling water, there's a risk of permanent ropes being damaged.
 

Willy Eckerslyke

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If it was going up a stope with water running down on the no 2 level it could be up into Gorlan. The other interesting area is where there are ladders and air pipes going up stope. This leads to one of the last working areas with an end tipper and stemming cartridges made up in old newspapers. The stemming cartridges are what a certain idiot reported on in a newspaper article as 'hoards of gelignite' or similar. For anyone mystified, stemming is made up from rock dust.
Sadly, we noticed on our last trip through (a couple of months back) that there's been a collapse there. At least I'm pretty sure it was that section. You can still get along 2 but not up the ladders to see the wagon.
 

ChrisJC

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Chris, was this the wet shaft with pipework visible when looking up through the drips, and lots of timber piled to the side of the level?
If so, it's the old ladderway from which we "borrowed" the ladders that now fill the gaps in the ladderway down from Parc 2. In our defence, they were hanging very precariously in danger of falling.

No idea about the red rope or Nige though, we always removed our ropes after each trip. With that quantity of falling water, there's a risk of permanent ropes being damaged.
Yeah, that's the one! Good call on the ladders - it was always a bit hairy climbing the pipes!

Chris.
 

tomferry

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Sadly, we noticed on our last trip through (a couple of months back) that there's been a collapse there. At least I'm pretty sure it was that section. You can still get along 2 but not up the ladders to see the wagon.
A name I haven’t seen for a while !

to access the carts now you have to climb the pipes in situ, they are only just hooked on at the top on a stop cock. It is still doable just a tad hair raising, the ladders have seen better days further up.

This was 2 months ago for anyone interested

Regards Tom
 

will photobilly

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We did a bit of exploring in Parc yesterday and found a red rope hanging down from a wet shaft.

There was a note at the bottom saying 'No red one' or 'No redone' signed Nige.

Who is Nige? And were does the rope go?

Chris.
possible just a coincidence but i did the abseil down to 3 from the cutting above knee bones a couple of weeks ago, with a chap called Nige wonder if he left the note
 

will photobilly

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If it was going up a stope with water running down on the no 2 level it could be up into Gorlan. The other interesting area is where there are ladders and air pipes going up stope. This leads to one of the last working areas with an end tipper and stemming cartridges made up in old newspapers. The stemming cartridges are what a certain idiot reported on in a newspaper article as 'hoards of gelignite' or similar. For anyone mystified, stemming is made up from rock dust.
hi Roy, am sure its one of your trip reports a while ago I read with a picture of the end tipper, I've tried a few times to find it but it seem to elude me... can you explain please so I can have another look... I've been up the winz on the left above the tide experiment all the way to barred adit entrance, am assuming am miles off down there. many thanks
 

tomferry

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hi Roy, am sure its one of your trip reports a while ago I read with a picture of the end tipper, I've tried a few times to find it but it seem to elude me... can you explain please so I can have another look... I've been up the winz on the left above the tide experiment all the way to barred adit entrance, am assuming am miles off down there. many thanks
Going inbye at the first T junction you need to take a right follow it along a fair distance and there is a set of air pipes going up on your left , you need to monkey up these pipes for a while until you reach the start of a ladder way , after this at the very top the wooden ladders change to a chain ladder, everything is missing after this and you just have to use in situ metal pins .
 

will photobilly

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Going inbye at the first T junction you need to take a right follow it along a fair distance and there is a set of air pipes going up on your left , you need to monkey up these pipes for a while until you reach the start of a ladder way , after this at the very top the wooden ladders change to a chain ladder, everything is missing after this and you just have to use in situ metal pins .
ahh thank you Tom, so its off the principle lode... am pretty sure i know where you mean now! worth leaving a rope in?
 

will photobilly

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Was it a bit wet and drippy with pipes and that in there?

Chris.
yeah where you looking up into it or down? there's a drain pipe that runs half way down someone's put in, would be nice idea if it went all the way down tho lol kinda ends ring where there's a small undercut and you get soaked.. got a short video somewhere i think....
 
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