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John Barnatt's book 'Delving Ever Deeper' is an excellent description of these mines.

That'll get the 'free access for all' clique going lol

RE Penwllt wagon. It's made by Hornby...

For those of a nerdy disposition, there's an 00 gauge mineral wagon 'Penwllt' made by either Bachmann or Dapol. Can't remember which,, and too lazy to check through 100-odd wagons to find out...lol

Sorry to hear this. Known Jane for many years. She will be missed.

Sounds fishy....

What's the relationship between Russet Well and Slop Moll? I always get these two confused....

No limestone here either... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hill_o%27_Many_Stanes

*Pedant mode ON* Most stone circles are Bronze Age. *Pedant mode OFF*

Maybe Braveduck would be better communicating his scepticism to the researchers. After all, fake stone settings aren't exactly unknown to professional archaeologists....

There's some good points made.... But:- Is it better to scale down the event, or not have the event at all? Which seems to be the choice made here.

The 'core values' I was referring to are related to the ability to meet people in person to share information and discuss topics. Descent can share information and UKC can promote discussion (after a fashion) but neither is as good (to me) as meeting face to face. But I guess it's academic. If...

Might be time to think about scaling down the event to core values. Things like information sharing and expedition updates. All singing and dancing AV presentations competitions and the like are all very well but to me they were always 'extras'. This isn't to knock the ambitions or hard work of...

Yes. I think Trevor Ford cut his teeth round there too. It was a pupil at Attenborough's school that found the Charnia specimen

I know someone who couldn't do Giants in summer because they'd set off the alarms going into a radiologically sensitive area...

Yet again David you trivialise the problem.

I have to admire Badlad's optimism that based on the people he knows people he doesn't know aren't as bad as they are painted. He has the same argument with free access to caves. Sorry there's a small but persistent minority that DO cause problems and linking ithat to discharge of raw sewage is...

The BCA Statement is unlikely to be read by many Ukranians. It's for UK cavers' benefit. It's also about a month late. Don't get me wrong, I fully support the statement of opposition to the invasion of a sovereign country, but let's not kid ourselves it's any more than a gesture.

Sorry but Aricooperdavies is being very naive. Protest in Russia is a very different prospect to protesting over here. 15 years for mentioning the war?  :o Phil hit the nail on the head.