• The Derbyshire Caver, No. 158

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Access to Snowdon and Nearby

Cantclimbtom

Well-known member
But didn't want to park their SUV too far from the shops, especially if you have to trek there with all your walking poles and everything!

If recently made by Opel ("Vauxhall" badge) it features a fuel tank hanging down at least 6" underneath the level of the floor pans so mounting a high curb will strike it, or at least the safety bar fitted to protect it. Constant damage by speed humps on the rough "off-road" conditions of Asda car park, that SUV must be kept away from potholes, high kerbs and the larger speed humps or it'll be damaged ;)

I hope any park and ride in Snowdonia have a nice smooth parking area, or the SUVs will be damaged
 

ttxela2

Active member
cavemanmike said:
Cosmo Smallpiece said:
........strolling past the shops using walking poles.

:LOL: :LOL: true story

My wife is a vocal proponent of the benefits of the walking pole, on my last visit to Betws y Coed, being somewhat troubled by a dodgy knee which was making it's presence felt on the previous days mine trip, I purchased myself a lovely shiny pair of walking poles with which to stroll around the forest. Curious as to their advertised benefits I deployed them upon leaving the shop. I hadn't got more than a hundred yards or so before an elderly gentleman berated me angrily in a most agressive fashion from the other side of the street, waving his own more traditional walking stick in the air. Shamefacedly I telescoped the poles back as small as they would go and hurriedly rammed them into my bag hopefully concealing any sign that I possessed such articles of ridicule.

It was many miles into the forest before I tentatively withdrew them and cautiously gave them another try. On my return home I hung them in the shed where they remain to this day, silently mocking me every time I go to retrieve the lawnmower.
 

andrewmcleod

Well-known member
Digit said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-56884631

Just appeared, time will tell how widespread this will be.  In the short term probably best to do a bit of checking before coming into the wider area i.e. the area the 'average' tourist/day-tripper will be interested in.

I think this is only for Pen y Pass, which is so trivially small in comparison to the demand (about 60 cars I think) that it would almost be better to just close the damn thing to prevent the illusion that it is actually possible to park there (which is what the old ?10 a day charge failed to do, but this pre-booking will hopefully manage). It's still presumably going to possible to park over the border in Conwy on the A5 for free, which is only 1.3 miles away (and less of a slog and easier to get a space than parking further down the Pass). And I assume that the west of the mountain will continue to be largely unexplored and empty...
 

Cantclimbtom

Well-known member
I think that PyP car park is very useful. There's a lot of people who are capable of walking the Miners' track up to about Britannia on Llyn Llydaw but no further due to age, health or mobility issues or general capability etc. They should be allowed to enjoy the outdoors too.
For people of limited capacity it's perfect spot, that and Idwal Cottage parking too... I haven't walked from there to the slabs kind of direction for a few years (that is called "The Cwm Idwal Walk"?) , but last time I was there I thought it could be made wheelchair friendly for the first section up to the Llyn and the parking at IC made blue badge at weekends.
 

NewStuff

New member
Cap'n Chris said:
During warm(er) weather towing a car away wouldn't be a major issue but if it was done during winter (or cold snap) conditions it could be life threatening for someone anticipating returning to their car only to find it's missing and they are stuck in the middle of nowhere with nothing in which to shelter or rewarm themselves. Would expect such a practice to therefore be unwise in the extreme and potentially sue-worthy.

There isn't an issue over winter, as the footfall is a trickle over the gloomy/wet cold winter months, with only a few people being equipped and of the inclination to head up mountains in the snow, rain ice etc. Even a normal summer, while undoubtedly busy, is not a patch on the scenes seen last year.
 

Argol Fawr

New member
Spare a thought for those who live around Llaberis and such places who?ll have to suffer the Snowdon parking horde spill off (and did so last year).

SNP?s policies include concentrating the mountain hiker badge seekers around Snowdon itself to both manage their footfall erosion repair budget and keep the hordes away from quieter hills. Anyway, I?m always bemused by people who gripe about how horrid honeypot places become, then advertise their super quite routes and locations to the world.

TwllMawr (in a previous dimension).
 

crickleymal

New member
sinker said:
RobinGriffiths said:
I'm always suprised why there's always so many people in Betws y Coed.

Brainless lemmings with more money than sense  :mad:
Why? I had friends,one of whom died of Covid, who liked visiting there just for its own sake. It's a pleasant place to stroll round, have a nice lunch in the restaurants etc.
 

sinker

New member
Argol Fawr said:
Spare a thought for those who live around Llaberis and such places.....

SNP?s policies include concentrating the mountain hiker badge seekers around Snowdon itself to both manage their footfall erosion repair budget and keep the hordes away from quieter hills.

TwllMawr (in a previous dimension).

Argol Fawr! Dyma TwllMawr 'wan! Croeso, cyfaill!

 
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