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Anyone here use FileZilla for FTP ?

martinr

Active member
I maintain 2 websites. Since upgrading to the latest version of FileZilla, I can no longer accees the remote directory for one of the sites. Here is the log file )part)

Status: Connected
Status: Retrieving directory listing...
Command: PWD
Response: 257 "/" is the current directory
Command: TYPE I
Response: 200 Type set to I
Command: PASV
Response: 227 Entering Passive Mode (87,106,114,121,226,147).
Command: MLSD
Error: Connection timed out
Error: Failed to retrieve directory listing

This doesnt happen on the other site - it works fine - here is the log:

Status: Connected
Status: Retrieving directory listing...
Command: PWD
Response: 257 "/" is the current directory
Command: TYPE I
Response: 200 Type set to I
Command: PASV
Response: 227 Entering Passive Mode (82,165,210,35,238,102).
Command: MLSD
Response: 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for MLSD
Response: 226 Transfer complete
Status: Directory listing successful

Anyone have any ideas?
 

AndyF

New member
Your problem will be PASV mode...

Try turning it off (if on, or vice versa) and give that a go...

You connecting O.K. but failing after the attempt to switch to PASV
 

martinr

Active member
AndyF said:
Your problem will be PASV mode...

Try turning it off (if on, or vice versa) and give that a go...

You connecting O.K. but failing after the attempt to switch to PASV

Thanks.

I have tried that and it makes no difference. And anyway, my second site is working fine

martinr said:
Command: PASV
Response: 227 Entering Passive Mode (82,165,210,35,238,102).
Command: MLSD
Response: 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for MLSD
Response: 226 Transfer complete
Status: Directory listing successful

and both sites use same settings
 

martinr

Active member
In older versions of FileZilla I am sure the command was LIST and now it is MLSD. But I dont understand why MLSD gets the directory listing for one site but gives a time-out for the other? I have set the time out to 200 but it doesnt help - after 200 secs it still fails to get the listing.

I have reverted to an earlier version of FileZilla (one that I thought worked fine a couple of days ago) and still I cannot solve the problem on the second website.

I also have CoffeCup FTP and that works fine for both sites, so the problem is not at the server end. So it must be within FileZilla but I cant figure out what is wrong?
 

nickwilliams

Well-known member
Try turning off the firewall on your computer (temporarily, while you troubleshoot). FTP does not work well through fire walls.

I've been having similar problems with ftp to one of my servers. Changing to use sftp instead of ftp seemed to be the solution.

Nick.
 

AndyF

New member
THe settings aren't the same.... look at the "entering Passive mode" line, the IP/port numbers are different. You need to look at the settings closer ... ;)
 

bubba

Administrator
Have you tried using Active mode and port 21 instead of Passive mode?

Having a quick google this seems a common problem with FileZilla but couldn't find a definitive solution.
 

martinr

Active member
Thanks for all the help offered so far.

but I still cannot reach the directory listing as it stops at the MLSD command and I think this is a "timed-out" issue? After MSLD command I would expect to see something like:
"Response: 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for MLSD" but this doesn?t happen

To summarise:

Connection is established
FTP Server ready.
Password accepted
Log in succeeds
Connects
"/" is the current directory
Enters Passive Mode
Command: MLSD (Times - out at this point; after 600 secs)


My other website (same host, but a different customer account) works fine. I have checked all the settings at my end. Apart from passwords etc I am using the same settings for each account. I have even used the Site Manager feature in FileZilla to copy all the settings for the good site and use them for the other site, changing the ID and passwords etc, I still cannot reach the directory listing for the site ????


Here are the log files for the two accounts,

First, the Log file for the unsuccessful site

Status: Resolving address of *****
Status: Connecting to 87.106.114.121:21...
Status: Connection established, waiting for welcome message...
Response: 220 FTP Server ready.
Command: USER *****
Response: 331 Password required for ******
Command: PASS ********
Response: 230 User logged in
Command: SYST
Response: 215 UNIX Type: L8
Command: FEAT
Response: 211-Features:
Response: MDTM
Response: MFMT
Response: MFF modify;UNIX.group;UNIX.mode;
Response: MLST modify*;perm*;size*;type*;unique*;UNIX.group*;UNIX.mode*;UNIX.owner*;
Response: REST STREAM
Response: SIZE
Response: 211 End
Status:             Connected
Status:             Retrieving directory listing...
Command: PWD
Response: 257 "/" is the current directory
Command: TYPE I
Response: 200 Type set to I
Command: PASV
Response: 227 Entering Passive Mode (87,106,114,121,255,200).
Command: MLSD
(Time - out happens at this point)


log file for successful site

Status: Resolving address of *****
Status: Connecting to 82.165.210.35:21...
Status: Connection established, waiting for welcome message...
Response: 220 FTP Server ready.
Command: USER ******
Response: 331 Password required
Command: PASS ********
Response: 230 User logged in
Command: SYST
Response: 215 UNIX Type: L8
Command: FEAT
Response: 211-Features:
Response: MDTM
Response: MFMT
Response: MFF modify;UNIX.group;UNIX.mode;
Response: MLST modify*;perm*;size*;type*;unique*;UNIX.group*;UNIX.mode*;UNIX.owner*;
Response: REST STREAM
Response: SIZE
Response: 211 End
Status:             Connected
Status:             Retrieving directory listing...
Command: PWD
Response: 257 "/" is the current directory
Command: TYPE I
Response: 200 Type set to I
Command: PASV
Response: 227 Entering Passive Mode (82,165,210,35,229,101).
Command: MLSD
Response: 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for MLSD
Response: 226 Transfer complete
Status:             Directory listing successful



I should add: yes, I have tried swapping active and passive modes, still couldnt connect. Also using port 21

Have contacted 1and1 and several times and tried different solutions, they have said

"We have reproduce your issue here in our end but we can successfully connect to your webspace.  We do believe that you were browsing to a directory that is not existing anymore.  Try to establish an FTP again."

"FTP connection should be fine using any of your domain, infact I was able to connect using Filezilla."

"Upon checking here in our end, we can connect through ftp and I can access the directory listing.
Please try to make a new connection, and double check the ftp account information."
 

khakipuce

New member
Your two accounts are on different physical machines (different IP addresses in the logs) so it is possible that they different OS versions and or different FTP server versions, even though they are with the same hosting company.

The first server presumably does not support the MLSD command which is a newer FTP command than list.

Personally I use SmartFTP, I find it much easier to use than FileZilla, may be worth a try and see if it solves this problem. www.smartftp.com
 

martinr

Active member
khakipuce said:
Your two accounts are on different physical machines (different IP addresses in the logs) so it is possible that they different OS versions and or different FTP server versions, even though they are with the same hosting company.

The first server presumably does not support the MLSD command which is a newer FTP command than list.

Thanks. I was thinking along the same lines. As I posted earlier, using Coffeecup FTP still works fine for both sites, it doesnt time out as FileZilla does. I have tried an older verison of FileZilla (the previous version) but still cant get it to work. I only upgraded to the current version a couple of days ago and I thought going back 1 version would work but it doesnt. I will try a much older version of FZ and see if that uses LIST instead of MLSD.

Its a bit poor that 1and1 servers dont all recognise the MLSD command (assuming that is what the problem is - waiting for 1and1 to confirm)

1and1 support have been pretty useless - all they can suggest is clearing the cache and waiting 3 hours but I already tried this last night. Their other suggestion (that my website didnt exist, therfore I couldnt reach the directory) made be laugh though!
 

martinr

Active member
Success!!

I downgraded from FileZilla 3.2.7.1  to 3.1.3.1 and it connected first time.

I am now satisfied the problem must that 1and1 is not fully compatible with current FileZilla FTP, i.e. not all their servers can recognise the MLSD command (although I am waiting for 1and1 to confirm this).

Thanks to all those who helped. UKCaving.com at its best!  :beer:

Here's part of the log and it shows LIST instead of MLSD:

Status: Connected
Status: Retrieving directory listing...
Command: PWD
Response: 257 "/" is the current directory
Command: TYPE I
Response: 200 Type set to I
Command: PASV
Response: 227 Entering Passive Mode (87,106,114,121,203,48).
Command: LIST
Response: 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for file list
Response: 226 Transfer complete
 

martinr

Active member
Update:

Response from 1and1:

We have tried to reproduce the issue in our end and it shows that we are able to connect to both websites via FTP using Filezilla version  3.2.6.1. Please see below the results for (*********).

Status: Resolving address of *********
Status: Connecting to 87.106.114.121:21...
Status: Connection established, waiting for welcome message...
Response: 220 FTP Server ready.
Command: USER *******
Response: 331 Password required for *********
Command: PASS ********
Response: 230 User logged in
Status: Connected
Status: Retrieving directory listing...
Command: PWD
Response: 257 "/" is the current directory
Status: Directory listing successful

We would greatly appreciate also if you could check the Site Manager and see if the "Passive" option is being checked for Transfer Mode under Transfer Settings tab. Please let us know immediately if you could not still connect to this site so we could further investigate the case in our end. Your quick response is much appreciated.



 

whitelackington

New member
martinr said:
Update:

Response from 1and1:

We have tried to reproduce the issue in our end and it shows that we are able to connect to both websites via FTP using Filezilla version  3.2.6.1. Please see below the results for (*********).

Status: Resolving address of *********
Status: Connecting to 87.106.114.121:21...
Status: Connection established, waiting for welcome message...
Response: 220 FTP Server ready.
Command: USER *******
Response: 331 Password required for *********
Command: PASS ********
Response: 230 User logged in
Status: Connected
Status: Retrieving directory listing...
Command: PWD
Response: 257 "/" is the current directory
Status: Directory listing successful

We would greatly appreciate also if you could check the Site Manager and see if the "Passive" option is being checked for Transfer Mode under Transfer Settings tab. Please let us know immediately if you could not still connect to this site so we could further investigate the case in our end. Your quick response is much appreciated.
This boring crap should go straight into THE SHIT HEAP  (y)
 

Peter Burgess

New member
Unlike the b*****x you write, this will be of interest and useful to someone somewhere. Just because you are grade A tosspot doesn't mean everyone else has the same delusions as you.
 

martinr

Active member
whitelackington said:
This boring crap should go straight into THE SHIT HEAP  (y)

Thanks for your contribution Mick

I keep your club website up-to-date for you (or I try to).  I have been unable to upload new files to the site. As there are people on UKCavng who know about FTP I thought it would be usefull to ask for help. And once the problem was solved (with the help of UKCaving members) I thought it useful to share the feedback from 1and1 as there could be other webmasters who encounter similar problems.

Sorry you found this boring, but you dont have to read this "crap" as you call it.

Should you wish to take over from me as the club webmaster I am happy to pass the baton to you......
 

Les W

Active member
whitelackington said:
martinr said:
Update:

Response from 1and1:

We have tried to reproduce the issue in our end and it shows that we are able to connect to both websites via FTP using Filezilla version  3.2.6.1. Please see below the results for (*********).

Status: Resolving address of *********
Status: Connecting to 87.106.114.121:21...
Status: Connection established, waiting for welcome message...
Response: 220 FTP Server ready.
Command: USER *******
Response: 331 Password required for *********
Command: PASS ********
Response: 230 User logged in
Status: Connected
Status: Retrieving directory listing...
Command: PWD
Response: 257 "/" is the current directory
Status: Directory listing successful

We would greatly appreciate also if you could check the Site Manager and see if the "Passive" option is being checked for Transfer Mode under Transfer Settings tab. Please let us know immediately if you could not still connect to this site so we could further investigate the case in our end. Your quick response is much appreciated.
This boring crap should go straight into THE SHIT HEAP  (y)

But Mick, this is in Idle Chat and is clearly titled as to it's content. You don't have to read it if it doesn't interest. This stuff is actually useful to quite a few people on here though and I have no problem with the FTP Geeks swapping problems and solutions. At least they are trying to help each other and not just present one sided unresearched issues with no thought about a real debate*.

*Debate (noun) - a discussion, involving opposing viewpoints.

 

martinr

Active member
Perhaps the mods can help by renaming this thread "Please ignore if you do not use FileZilla for FTP" ?
 

martinr

Active member
Finaly got an answer from 1and1:

Thank you for contacting us.

As regard to your concern, the MLSD command the connection is closed from the server.
Yes,It is on the server issue.

If you have any further questions please do not hesitate to contact us.

I assume this is an admission that (some of) their servers do not recognise the MLSD command.
 

graham

New member
[quote author=whitelackington]
This boring crap should go straight into THE SHIT HEAP  (y)
[/quote]

Worra wonker  ::)
 
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