Are UKCaving cavers representative of the population politically?

Which way do you intend to vote in the upcoming general election?


  • Total voters
    112
  • Poll closed .

AR

Well-known member
Groundhog said:
Ha! It would seem that Labour has the biggest member, The Greens a much smaller one and other only has 1 b*ll
Would the other be in the Albert Hall, perchance?
 

PeteHall

Moderator
nearlywhite said:
The results of the YouGov #GE2019 MRP model:

Con ? 359 seats / 43% vote share        vs 13.3%
Lab ? 211 / 32%                                  vs 45.6%
LD ? 13 / 14%                                    vs 17.8%
SNP ? 43 / 3%                                    vs 0%
Plaid ? 4 / 1%                                      vs 2.2%
Green ? 1 / 3%                                    vs 10%
Brexit Party ? 0 / 3%                            vs 3.3%

Got to love our political system, where 3% of the vote could get you anything from 0 to 43 seats depending if you are SNP, Green or Brexit...
 

nearlywhite

Active member
I'm not too bothered by geographical minority parties being represented whilst ideological ones aren't - we don't have federal protection of any of our constituent countries so it goes a small way to fix that. FPTP forces people to make the democratic bartering before the election rather than after so it's not quite as undemocratic as it appears. Plus even if you vote for a single issue party your vote's not wasted - even though UKIP never got much representation they did successfully make the main parties hold the referendum...
 

mikem

Well-known member
& Scotland does have almost a third of the UK land area, even if they only have 8% of the population...
 

Pitlamp

Well-known member
Groundhog said:
Looking at the results of the poll I would say that the answer to the original posters question is no!
Yesterday I was caving with 2 labour voters and 1 tory. We were unanimous in concluding that we were all very unhappy with our parties and their leaders.

You can add me to that list - I'm very disappointed and disillusioned with the current situation.
I'm minded to vote Lib Dem in the election (which would be a first for me) as the "least bad" option of all.

My main reason for this short post though is to thank the OP for raising this interesting topic.

 

mikem

Well-known member
Looks like some late labour votes snuck in before the poll closed to boost them up to 48.2%.

Could be a useful synopsis of party manifestos:
https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2019/12/election_2019_-_what_do_party_promises_mean_for_the_outdoors-72147
 

nearlywhite

Active member
You'd need a 32 point swing from labour and the greens to the Tories to make this representative as the polls currently stand.

There are a few of that magnitude in British history - most being to the SNP in 2015! Caught me by surprise, didn't realise quite how momentous a shift that was.

Any of the politics watchers in this thread might like to look at Uxbridge and South Ruislip - Boris has a majority of 5000 and Labour appear to be doing well at the Lib Dems expense. That'd be hilarious if they upset the seat but the Tories got a majority  :LOL:
 

ZombieCake

Well-known member
Depressing - although in a cynically fun kind of way Alestorm's '...'ed with an Anchor' (look it up on YouTube, not the sort of link to post directly here) seems to sum up all the parties and how they all treat the electorate fantastically.  Quite a catchy tune though.
 
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