BCA AGM - CRoW Report

[Ian Adams]

Chris,

You are talking bollocks.

It is an established FACT that;

1) Some people vote (yes or no)
2) Some people don't vote

Those who do not vote, for whatever reason, give way to those that do.

Spouting numbers of people who didn't vote and trying to purport that this in some way diminishes the BCA Ballot is, frankly, contemptible and you should be thoroughly ashamed of your behaviour.

Ian

 

[Peter Burgess]

We are urged to unite behind the proponents of applying CRoW. I can understand why, but can't see it happening.

History tells us that if you want to divide a body of people, whether a nation or just a club, pick a very contentious polarising issue, and take a vote on it.

If you want to unite a body of people, pick a very contentious issue, and work out a position that a majority of people on both sides are content with, and happy to unite on. Then vote on the resulting position, to complete the happy union.

 

[cap n chris]

You are talking bollocks.

So 77% of an electorate do not vote for something.

But 23% of an electorate do.

23% is claimed to be the majority of the electorate.

Is that what you are saying?

If so then it seems that I must obviously be talking bollocks. Clearly.

 

[Ian Adams]

he did not condemn the side of the fence he is not sat on.

'a vocal minority continue to campaign against CRoW with some vigour as evidenced by their relationships, in letters, PMQs and the media, all designed to undermine the BCA majority position.'

Really?

Why don't you bother to read the whole report and take it ALL in the context he wrote it instead of isolating single phrases and drawing your own interpretations to them. Read it is as it was written and stop being a prick.

Ian

 

[Ian Adams]

So 77% of people do not vote.

23% people do.

23% is the majority?

Is that what you are saying?

You need to stop being a prick too. You know EXACTLY what you are doing and it is a total disgrace to the institution of caving and democracy.

Ian

 

[cavemanmike]

he did not condemn the side of the fence he is not sat on.

'a vocal minority continue to campaign against CRoW with some vigour as evidenced by their relationships, in letters, PMQs and the media, all designed to undermine the BCA majority position.'

Really?

as per this thead ( same old story from same people)
tim  is giving  a factual statement

 

[cap n chris]

No. Sorry. I do not know what you are insinuating. I read the Report and the ERS document. It jumps out of the page to anyone who can read. There is a clear mismatch. I am picking up on that.

 

[mikem]

Ian, you can't take part in the sweep stake if you are doing your best to get it locked ;-)

People who don't vote, either don't care, don't think their vote will make any difference or expect that it is going to go in their direction anyway - ergo,

People who don't vote are said to go with the majority who do. That is the basis of British voting law.

http://survation.com/apathy-in-the-uk-understanding-the-attitudes-of-non-voters/

Mike

 

[Pegasus]

[admin]Jackalpup - it is not acceptable to call other forum members names on this forum. Please don't, thank you[/admin]

 

[cap n chris]

Kindly use the official figures to prove that the "majority of BCA members voted in favour". Do that and I will retract my observations.

 

[droid]

. Read it is as it was written and stop being a p***k.

Ian

In deference to the forum I'll not respond to Ian's blatant provocation.....lol

 

[Peter Burgess]

Where's my tin helmet? I think I'll wait for the minutes to get the full picture!

 

[Ian Adams]

Kindly use the official figures to prove that the "majority of BCA members voted in favour". Do that and I will retract my observations.

The "official" figures are well known.

Deal with it.

Ian

 

[cap n chris]

77% of BCA members did not vote for lobbying.

23% of BCA members did.

Deal with it.

Chris.

 

[Peter Burgess]

I have marked the following test papers:

Cap'n Chris - Arithmetic - Excellent, full marks.

Ian - Drama - very impressed. 9 out of 10.

Badlad - English Composition - spelling and grammar fine, an excellent work of fiction! (joke).

 

[Ian Adams]

77% of BCA members did not vote for lobbying.

23% of BCA members did.

Deal with it.

Chris.

You are talking total crap. Get your head out of bullshit it is stuck in and take a look around at the real world.


Pegasus - sorry about being strong, I don't feel I can simply sit here and let these people tear apart Tim's hard and excellent work which he has spent a very long time undertaking which even benefits these "mischief makers". Their attitude and postings are preposterous and sometimes it just needs saying.

Sorry again.

Ian

 

[Peter Burgess]

Unfortunately, the real world is full of people who hold many different views on many things and see the same thing in completely different ways. Sorry, that should have read "Fortunately" at the start.

 

[Pegasus]

[admin]Jackalpup - final warning - apologising after posting doesn't get you off the hook, please calm it down, thank you [/admin]

 

[cap n chris]

77% of BCA members did not vote for lobbying.

23% of BCA members did.

Deal with it.

Chris.

You are talking total crap.

The facts are there. Others can decide for themselves what is crap and what isn't.

 

[Brains]

Ian, you can't take part in the sweep stake if you are doing your best to get it locked ;-)

People who don't vote, either don't care, don't think their vote will make any difference or expect that it is going to go in their direction anyway - ergo,

People who don't vote are said to go with the majority who do. That is the basis of British voting law.

http://survation.com/apathy-in-the-uk-understanding-the-attitudes-of-non-voters/

Mike

So by that reckoning, all non voters can be included with the pro group, giving an even greater mandate 

Simples!

Now about this bickering thing...