As a point if information, NCA was consulted by the Government on cavers' views prior to 2000 and the CRoW legislation being enacted. The then Conservation & Access Group, convenor Graham Price of CSCC, agreed unanimously in their response to the consultation documents in saying that caves should be included under the CRoW legislation and that they were mindful of the conservation issues but felt these could be dealt with satisfactorily. The C&A Group response was agreed by the then NCA Council at its meeting (at which Graham Mullan was present), and no objection was made by anyone present. (The minutes of both meetings are on record.) The response was sent to the government and all of us present at those meetings, as far as I knew, expected that there would be some further consultation on details but there was no reason to suppose that there would be any problems.
It was noted that, when the CRoW legislation came into force in Scotland in 2003, caves were included in access on CRoW land and it actually stated that this was a permitted activity.
Some time after that NCA C&A Meeting, Graham Price stood down as Convenor and Chairman and Elsie Little took over but there is no record from her of any further discussions with the government, either during the days of NCA or when she continued in post as C&A officer of BCA. Additionally, there was a change in the NCA Legal & Insurance Officer: David Judson took over and he continued in this post with BCA.
Nothing further was heard but there was some disappointment when it became evident, once the legislation in England and Wales came into force that, while caving was not specifically a "prohibited activity", somehow it didn't seem to be accepted either. I started looking into this and found there had been various reports (by Natural England, among others), on the working of the legislation, including one in 2009 which specifically suggested that caving should be included in the activities which were generally accepted.
I raised the question at a BCA Council meeting and Judson, BCA's L&I officer, stated that it was "BCA policy" that caving should not be included in the CRoW legislation and this was followed up by a statement from him in Descent on access to caves on CRoW land which purported to state this as BCA policy. By now alarm bells were ringing and further investigation uncovered contacts between Linda, working with Judson, and Defra, stating in no uncertain terms that BCA policy was that caves should NOT be included. This had been done entirely without the knowledge of BCA Council or BCA members and was in direct opposition to the policy which had been agreed by both NCA C&A Group and NCA Council in 1998. With this in mind, I raised the matter at the BCA 2014 AGM; being told beforehand by Judson that I was wasting my time as "the policy re. caving on CRoW land" had all been agreed: BCA did not agree with it and cavers did not want it
BCA members at that AGM clearly did not agree with Judson's view of the BCA policy and began to ask further questions as to how this had come about. BCA agreed to set up a working group, initially with me as its convenor, but without a clear statement of policy I could only start on some fact-finding about how many caves in the various regions were on CRoW access land and might be covered under the legislation. As soon as it became clear that BCA members wished to take this further and were beginning to indicate that they did feel that caves should be included, I was delighted to hand over to Tim, who has far better contacts than I have and much more time to progress this, and have continued to back his work.
It is particularly unfortunate that the obstructive tactics of Wilson and Judson have continued behind the scenes since 1988, still claiming to be speaking for the majority of cavers and with Judson using his position as BCA L&I officer to create confusion with Defra. As can be seen from the email extract above, the obstruction continues yet, despite BCA members having made their views abundantly clear in two separate ballots relating to this subject: that the overwhelming majority do wish to see caves included under the legislation allowing access on CRoW land.
It is also very probable that, had the interference not taken place at the very beginning, caving would by now have been an accepted activity on CRoW land in England and Wales since the legislation came into being. All the later acrimony and upset would have been avoided and we could have put our energies into deciding on caves which we felt warranted special protection and setting up the necessary arrangements, which already form part of the legislation as "Section 26 agreements". In fact there are a considerable number of Section 26 agreements in force on CRoW land for various reasons relating to different activities, though only one is to do with a cave.
There are 8 caves on Mendip which are on CRoW land and with specifically controlled access; these could all have their access control arrangements continued, by agreement with all the local cavers and with the assistance of Natural England and the landowners, under Section 26 agreements. There are a number of caves in other regions in a similar situation, where local cavers can agree to set up Section 26 agreements if it is felt that special conservation and protection measures are necessary.
It ain't rocket science - it just needs some good will and co-operation to allow us to get on and do what needs to be done.