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Cambrian Caving Council 2024 AGM

Allan

Member
The AGM will be held on Sunday 10th March 2024 starting at 1200, at the Rheidol Power Station, CwmRheidol, Aberystwyth.
The meeting will be both in person and by Zoom.
Following the meeting Roy Fellows will be giving a presentation on Welsh Mining.

Allan Richardson
Secretary
Cambrian Caving Council
 

Stuart France

Active member
The agenda and draft minutes of the previous AGM are now on the Cambrian website:

As notified to member clubs and bodies during the consultation exercise last summer and autumn, this is the AGM where there will be motions to change the name of the organisation from Cambrian Caving Council / Cynghor Ogofeydd Cymreig to Caving Wales / Ogofa Cymru, and to modernise the constitution. Those of you with some knowledge of Welsh will realise that plurals ending -eydd are largely an archaic form and the Cymreig means "pertaining to Wales or Welshness" whereas Ogofa really is the word for Caving in Welsh and Cymru is the country. A correct translation of the old name is thus Welsh Caves Council.

The problem had become that "council" is a bit 1960s for the name of a national sports representative body, and almost all the other sports have adopted names in the format "Sport Nation" or "Nation Sport", for example "Swim Wales" or "England Hockey", which is what is expected nowadays. As C&A officer for Wales, I am getting fed up of explaining what our purpose is when my opposite number across the table thinks Cambrian Caving Council is just another small caving club acting for its own internal benefit.

As to "Cambrian", it's not the latin word for Wales, being coined in the 12th century to describe Wales and the then border area in the days of the Marcher Lords who in effect ruled the vague hinterland linking England and Wales. So we're going for Wales / Cymu in our new name, and letting the new constitution provide the clarification that it also includes the areas just over the border (where it is in this century) which are geologically related to Wales, like the Forest of Dean and parts of Shropshire.

As an aside, the meeting is at the visitor centre of the Rheidol Power Station not in the mechanical bit. Nearby is the beautiful Rheidol National Nature Reserve with waterfalls and wild swimming (!) plus all the mining heritage and underground trips in Cwm Ystwyth etc if people would like to make a weekend of it.
 

royfellows

Well-known member
When posting any annoucements remotely relating to mining matters, please dont forget "Buddlepit", the new mining forum.
Also, CCC is likely the first regional council to have a "Recreational Mine Exploration Officer", me.
Mine exploration as an activity in its own right has grown tremendously in the last few decades, and does go hand in hand with caving.

I have taken the liberty of copying all above to Buddlepit
 
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Stuart France

Active member
Well, sort of. At recent AGMs we created the Recreational Mine Exploration Officer and Information Officer roles while at the same time abolishing the Legal & Insurance Officer role (since that's the BCA's job now) and wanting an elected Information Officer with an executive vote rather than the former system of co-opting non-voting webmaster and newsletter editor(s).

We never altered the constitution at that time to enable these changes officially as it takes a year or more to do that, given the process that needs to be followed to facilitate it. So we are catching up this year by proposing to alter the consitution to reflect these changes and bring in other modernisations like allowing for online meetings, giving notice by emails, widening our aims to reflect the broader range of things a "regional council" does these days, and so on, as compared to the way things worked in the 1960s when the CCC was formed and (for example) it had no role in offering training or fixed aids, and the cave registry - if it existed at all - was based on postcard size notes in a plastic box.

I certainly saw the postcard implementation in the 1980s. Someone had punched a hole pattern through the top of each card so that you could do a database search by pushing knitting needles through the whole deck of cards and pulling up just those cards that matched the "knitting needle" criteria. Seriously, I am not making this up.
 
"I certainly saw the postcard implementation in the 1980s. Someone had punched a hole pattern through the top of each card so that you could do a database search by pushing knitting needles through the whole deck of cards and pulling up just those cards that matched the "knitting needle" criteria. Seriously, I am not making this up."
I seem to recall BSC using punched card programing and knitting needle sorting when I got some computer-based auditing training about 1974/5. In all fairness BSC were quite advanced in using computing for finance and some aspects of manufacturing operations.

Jim
 

Pegasus

Administrator
Staff member
If you would like a banner - similar to CNCC or BCA one - do let me know.....

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...and thank you for the link to the forum on your website (y):)
 
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