bubba
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Given that cavers regularly wreck the rock in all number of ways, I can't see climbing anchors being a problem as long as there's no delicate formations, etc. Most climbers would have a fit if they saw what goes on underground 
Anyway, this is all a bit hypothetical, I can't see this new underground climbing movement becoming very widespread
Anyway, this is all a bit hypothetical, I can't see this new underground climbing movement becoming very widespread
Cave_Troll
Active member
trying to climb E4 undergound seems like a fantastic idea to me and i can't think why itsnot taken off as a sport...
I'm allready in training, I spent last night down the climbing wall climbing F8a+ in wellies with my eyes shut and buckets of mud and water beingn thrown over me.
I'm allready in training, I spent last night down the climbing wall climbing F8a+ in wellies with my eyes shut and buckets of mud and water beingn thrown over me.
Brains
Well-known member
Have heard of cavers emerging from Carlswarks' Gin Entrance stop and watch climbers struggling on the Stoney Middleton cliffs, and so the story goes advice was given from below but not taken. One of the cavers (Bob Dearman?) then soloed up beside the climbers chosen route in his wellies to give "face to face" advice on holds, gear placement etc, before soloing back down again. Mind you it was probably one of Bobs own routes....
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tubby two
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Damn right! you could have some brilliant fun- even if its just on srt pitches that hang close enough to a wall to climb instead of prussiking. just got to think of some good places to try climbing trad style now. I was walking up Notts II streamway this w/e thinking how good old wellies are for climbing and if they could be improved with tight lacing to the toes like climbing shoes?
Or even better- ever seen those piccys of ice filled caves in france and the pyreneese... might justify taking axes caving like in that wonderful film... the descent.
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p.s.
Edge or foundry???
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andymorgan
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What is wrong with having someone belay you from above? Most 'climbs' in caves the top is accessible as you have to pass it to get to the bottom if you see what I mean.
I don't want to be one of the people called up to help remove your corpse from a cave!
I don't want to be one of the people called up to help remove your corpse from a cave!
Pitlamp
Well-known member
Just for the record Bar Pot has already been free climbed (Mike Wooding, both pitches, early 80's). So has Lancaster Hole entrance pitch (first 10 metres at least 5c but only V.Diff beyond). It used to be popular in the 70's to abseil down Alum Pot via the Dollytubs and climb out at about VS. Pillar Holes entrance pich has been done (but isn't particularly nice). The first ascent of GG was done by Roger Baxter Jones (in the early 70's I think) but used a little aid, hence the HVS / A2. There is an article about this in a CPC jourbnal of the time (in the GG winch meet report). The two NPC lads who did it totally free in the 80's gave it E2 5c if I remember right.
One early climbs was the entrance pitch of Car Pot in 1948, when Philip Tyas got detackled on. The jammed boulders 10 m down are called "P.T.Ledge". So you see, this cave climbing is far from a new idea. James Puttrell was doing it on Kyndwr Club meets over 100 years ago!
One early climbs was the entrance pitch of Car Pot in 1948, when Philip Tyas got detackled on. The jammed boulders 10 m down are called "P.T.Ledge". So you see, this cave climbing is far from a new idea. James Puttrell was doing it on Kyndwr Club meets over 100 years ago!
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andymorgan
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I'm thinking of doing some 'free running' (Parkour) in caves! Anybody tried that yet?
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tubby two
Guest
Excellent. I want to go caving now! not be sitting in this damn library avoiding work (feel free to email me any expertice on silicone rubbers used for root canal fillings)...
Slightly off topic but mentioning puttrell has done things doesn't always make me immediatley want to follow- has anyone ever seen the 'monkey jump' on wharncliffe crags near sheffield? I couldn't do it- i'll be impressed if anyone has though! I think it got E20 10c in the old stanage guide. and thats not a typo.
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Slightly off topic but mentioning puttrell has done things doesn't always make me immediatley want to follow- has anyone ever seen the 'monkey jump' on wharncliffe crags near sheffield? I couldn't do it- i'll be impressed if anyone has though! I think it got E20 10c in the old stanage guide. and thats not a typo.
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epik
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Armchair said:
whats your address?
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epik
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pitlamp said:
Many of Puttrell's routes above ground are very cave like so not surprising he went undergound aswell.
Don't think i was implying it was a new thing (my dads mates often did a few climbs out (normally through lack of kit
) ) but was lookiing for some suggestions to try.nice info on the routes you mentioned, i'm getting a fair list of things to try!
