Cookie said:Alkapton said:The safest solution I think would be if the BCA email all members again, but this time ask for a reply. Then send postal ballott to ALL who do not reply. This is the only way I think you can avoid very serious problems in the vey near future.
Hi Alkapton, asking for a reply is impracticable when you consider there are over 4000 emails to deal with.
Most BCA members are club members. BCA has always relied on the club secretaries to pass along BCA information and announcements. This'll be no different. BCA will rely on them to get the message out that there is a ballot.
We'll endeavor to contact the non-club members by another route. This is more manageable since there aren't so many of them.
There is over a month before ballot papers have to be returned. There is time to get the message out. There is time to re-issue ballot papers if necessary.
glyders said:I had a look when my club secretary emailed me to check. It wasn't in spam, junk or anywhere. I know some email providers block things even before they get to the recipient. Gmail is renowned for this, but possibly Yahoo is doing it too.
Bob Mehew said:As I said I will organise to send a reminder to club secretaries to remind their members that they should have individually got the ballot paper. The first email was just a check so little was lost by members. The text wasAlkapton said:Despite being member of a Club I am very unlikely to receive any warning from my club as are the other members.
At the recent AGM several proposals to amend the BCA Constitution were passed including the removal of the sentence which some have held is an impediment to BCA campaigning for the Countryside and Rights of Way Act to apply to caving.
That has triggered a ballot of all members since changes to the Constitution must be ratified by the entire membership. The ballot is currently being organised. To save money email addresses will be used wherever possible, hence this email to you.
Since this will be the first time we have used the entire email address list that we hold we felt it was worth sending this pre-ballot email to check that the addresses were working. We will collect any bounced messages and revert to using the post to issue ballot papers for those with a failing email address.
Your ballot paper will be issued by late August with a return by date of 23rd September. The results will be announced at BCA Council meeting on 7th October.
You don't need to do anything now but if you wish to read up on the proposals, the AGM Minutes are available at http://tinyurl.com/GoToBCAagm
You can opt-out of receiving administrative emails, such as this, or opt-in to receiving the BCA Newsletter by altering your email preferences via the members' section of the website at BCA-Online at http://tinyurl.com/GoToBCAonline
If you have any questions please don't reply to this email but contact the Secretary at secretary at british-caving.org.uk instead.
The sender is a new domain especially created for this role.
Bob Mehew said:It would appear that clubs have not relayed addresses onwards to BCA in some cases.
Thanks Cookie, PM sent.Cookie said:shotlighter said:Thanks for the clarification.
I just hope everyone in similar circumstance are not denied a vote, with the email form going to a discontinued address & no postal form sent.
I'm sure the May EE server closure affected many more cavers than just me!
Hi Shotlighter,
I don't think you are going to be denied a vote. If the EE server is closed then we would have received a bounce email. Anyone with a bounced email will have been swapped to a postal vote.
I don't know who you are. If you PM me I'll check all is OK for you.
Pitlamp said:Eventually found mine in the spam heap. Have yet to get my head round which of the attachments to send back . . . . :-\
Pegasus said:I haven't received an e-mail from BCA, in spam or anywhere