Cockshead Mine Covered over Filled in?
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Pitlamp
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I spent some time looking for that in the late 70s, without success. I had a rough idea of which hillock it was in but I don't remember coming across a steel sheet.
The most useful reference I came across is Dave Elliott's "Caves Of Northern Derbyshire" Part 1; The Eldon Hill Area (Jan 1975) pages 1 & 2. This includes a useful elevation and also a location map. It gives the location as "about 200 yds west of Bull Pit (NGR107814) and around 15 yds south of the B6061 Sparrowpit/Castleton road. This also tells us that it was formerly known as "SP Mine by potholers. (So searching for this, as well as Cockshead Mine, in caving publications may be useful?)
There are further references given in this article, the most useful of which will probably be:
Chandler B, 1953, British Caver V24 pp 73-75 (inc surveys)
Ford T D, 1966, BSA Cave Science 39 (p382).
Dave Elliott's reference list (in his CoND article above) includes "Speleogation Records" - as do many other entries in the 5 part series. I've often wondered what these Speleogation Records consist of; they may include a lot of interesting stuff. I bump into Dave now and again so I'll ask him next time I see him. (Or - Dave - if you read this, can you enlighten us?)
You could try asking Trevor Ford directly? (Best method likely to be by letter, with an SAE enclosed.)
The most useful reference I came across is Dave Elliott's "Caves Of Northern Derbyshire" Part 1; The Eldon Hill Area (Jan 1975) pages 1 & 2. This includes a useful elevation and also a location map. It gives the location as "about 200 yds west of Bull Pit (NGR107814) and around 15 yds south of the B6061 Sparrowpit/Castleton road. This also tells us that it was formerly known as "SP Mine by potholers. (So searching for this, as well as Cockshead Mine, in caving publications may be useful?)
There are further references given in this article, the most useful of which will probably be:
Chandler B, 1953, British Caver V24 pp 73-75 (inc surveys)
Ford T D, 1966, BSA Cave Science 39 (p382).
Dave Elliott's reference list (in his CoND article above) includes "Speleogation Records" - as do many other entries in the 5 part series. I've often wondered what these Speleogation Records consist of; they may include a lot of interesting stuff. I bump into Dave now and again so I'll ask him next time I see him. (Or - Dave - if you read this, can you enlighten us?)
You could try asking Trevor Ford directly? (Best method likely to be by letter, with an SAE enclosed.)
danthecavingman
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I can't remember why, but I always assumed that Cockshead Mine was here:
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=sparrowpit&hl=en&ll=53.328948,-1.841707&spn=0.000006,0.004801&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=18.828876,39.331055&hnear=Sparrowpit,+Derbyshire,+United+Kingdom&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=53.32899,-1.841402&panoid=5YWtzG9Yrfi-s83LW2YMyg&cbp=12,156.22,,0,11.97
Dan.
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=sparrowpit&hl=en&ll=53.328948,-1.841707&spn=0.000006,0.004801&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=18.828876,39.331055&hnear=Sparrowpit,+Derbyshire,+United+Kingdom&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=53.32899,-1.841402&panoid=5YWtzG9Yrfi-s83LW2YMyg&cbp=12,156.22,,0,11.97
Dan.
AR
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Looks like there's a fair bit of fog at Perryfoot right now - all I can see is grey....
If Paul Chandler's at the UCF meeting tonight, I'll mention to him that people are asking about the location of Cockshead mine. Looking on the old OS maps, there's a shaft marked directly south of Bull Pit, but nothing futher west south of the road
If Paul Chandler's at the UCF meeting tonight, I'll mention to him that people are asking about the location of Cockshead mine. Looking on the old OS maps, there's a shaft marked directly south of Bull Pit, but nothing futher west south of the road
Brains
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There is a square bracket missing in the link tags, it gives a street view image of the rough ground just S of the road on the hill between Perryfoot and Eldon Quarry. This is where I believe the mine to be as well, but had heard from a friend that the farmer wanted the site left well alone, so before getting to keen it might be an idea to have a quiet chat with him first, I believe its the same as for P8, Gautries etc. so he is caver friendly alreadydanthecavingman said:
Rob
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According to the notes above, i'm pretty sure it's further west, past the gate:
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=sparrowpit&hl=en&ll=53.328435,-1.844676&spn=0.000638,0.001564&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=18.828876,39.331055&hnear=Sparrowpit,+Derbyshire,+United+Kingdom&t=h&z=20
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=sparrowpit&hl=en&ll=53.328435,-1.844676&spn=0.000638,0.001564&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=18.828876,39.331055&hnear=Sparrowpit,+Derbyshire,+United+Kingdom&t=h&z=20
DAN
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Well Bull pit is presently being dug By Eddie Masson and Nick Williams (on P8 farmers Land) Eddie thought he would have no problem obtaining permission if he thought we had located it. The street map I have just looked at puts it right where I thought it was to. There is a raised area at the back of the field by the fence with a row of stones along the edge of the Hillock, I think it is the very likely to be the shaft, it is also the correct distance from the road. If a shaft is filled in it normally settles leaving a depression and that area is depression free.
Dan
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