Badlad said:Serious question. Is there anywhere in the Peak that you can go caving?
pwhole said:That's a big shame. Ironically I almost mentioned just the other day that one good thing about the lockdown would be the removal of the weekly slow-motion motorbike procession of doom through Castleton - and how the villagers may appreciate a little peace and quiet from the endless revving. They even used to ruin our day way up at Longcliffe with their infernal and somewhat pointless racket chugging up and down Winnats Pass for some reason or other. But no. The fat old leather boys must triumph. Cough. Equally, teenage lads have been all over the place today in Sheffield in defiant 'tight' groups, even in the woods - passing spliffs about of course. Cough. The best way to catch everything going round - even the clap. If anyone's still got that
I had a long chat with a friend in France last night who said that most of the guys on the streets in her town are getting tense and nasty as they can't visit prostitutes any more, and are just mooching about making cat-calls and not really social distancing either. It's quite a 'normal' activity where she lives apparently - or it was. So she's staying in a lot, and wearing very baggy clothes when she goes out shopping to avoid any grief. Exercising is even worse as they've followed her, so she's not doing it much, or taking a shopping bag with her when she does. What a life.
But it seems to me that outside the hospital and care home environment, most people should now have little chance of catching the virus accidentally, as long as they observe social distancing. I would happily say 'tough shit' to the rest who catch it now - curl up and die - except they'll infect blameless people who are trying their best to avoid it - and no doubt more hospital staff who still try to save their lives, even though it was their own stupid fault they caught it.
As for the Peak District, I'm sure there must be places you could go if you could walk it - or catch the bus if you were allowed. Windy Knoll and Odin Cave spring to mind! I don't think the National Trust have closed their land to walkers. Though you could walk into Windy Knoll and find a bunch of students sharing a spliff. Jugholes? Isn't that a public footpath to the entrance? But it's a long way to go for an hour underground. I guess poking around in abandoned quarries might also just be acceptable, depending on the landowner.
DCA is only reporting on the sites that we have been contacted by the landowner about, and for all of those at the moment it is to say they are closed. We have not been specifically informed of any sites that are open for caving, but that does not mean that they are all closed. We are not currently cold-contacting landowners to ask if they are open for cavers. DCA have been asked by some cave/mine owners to put signage up to prevent cavers coming onto their land. The ice-cream vans may be welcoming visitors back, but the landowners are not yet at that stage.Badlad said:Serious question. Is there anywhere in the Peak that you can go caving?
pwhole said:... somewhat pointless racket chugging up and down Winnats Pass for some reason or other. But no. The fat old leather boys must triumph. Cough.
Do we have towns where the men mooch around looking for prostitutes and follow women? Sounds like Marseilles, it was always like that. Whatever.
Just remember that some of these "fat old leather boys" love caving as well!!
Badlad said:Serious question. Is there anywhere in the Peak that you can go caving?
pwhole said:My real concern here is the village - if we are all doing our bit to keep the place safe, and all the shops are shut to keep the place safe, then how can a burger van just rock up in the car park and start serving everyone? The only shops open are Peveril Stores and the Post Office. And folks start buying burgers from an unknown provenance? Shouldn't the Parish Council be assembling a group of angry men with pitchforks? And if not, why not?
mikem said:Burger vans generally have to be licenced to operate in an area:
https://www.ncass.org.uk/mobile-catering-home/content/get-legal/law-pages/street-trading-license
pwhole said:I was only going on what you'd posted as I can't get there legally. You sounded concerned, which made me concerned. I assumed that places like Peveril Stores wouldn't want to be serving 100s of bikers if they're trying to keep the village onside?
pwhole said:I'm sure some of them do. I don't have a problem with motorcycles at all, or regular use of them. But processions of over 100 motorbikes travelling at 5mph up Arthur's Way in both directions doesn't primarily display a love of motorcycling to me. If they were silent, or even quiet I wouldn't mind as much as I do, but they're not - they're as loud as they can possibly be.