Creaking Death Pot

[Speleodroid]

Can anyone tell me anything about creaking death pot, west kingsdale????

Theres a survey on cavemaps.org, done by GSG.

 

[dunc]

Hmmm, never heard of it, although looking at the name, survey and the fact it was published in the seventies but fails to appear in NC3, I'd hazard a guess it 'creaked' a bit too much and became innaccessible and nobody has bothered with it since.

But you shouldn't judge a pot by its name.. Or should you  :-\

 

[starlessriver]

Found it!!! It rang a bell with me and I tracked it down. It is Robinson Crusoe Pot and still in the guidebook.
A link with the Grampian rang a bell and sure enough scroll down here and you'll find the reference to it.

http://www.sat.dundee.ac.uk/arb/gsg/bulletins/index74-88.html
or
http://www.sat.dundee.ac.uk/arb/gsg/bulletins/index89-01.html

Matthew Setchfield

 

[Pitlamp]

There's also a good article (by Andy Walsh I think) in a Pennine journal - early 80s I reckon (the one before the Notts Pot Journal i.e. the Large Pot journal).

 

[dunc]

Aha, Robinson Crusoe rang a bell with me and sure enough it was the one we failed to find quite a few years back when we went for a wander around the area rattling off a few 'gems'.
And looking at the following link it is apparently difficult to find!! (shame I didn't read the article as we might have had more success finding it)
NPC 1982 journal - Robinson Crusoe

 

[Beardy]

Dunc

"it is apparently difficult to find!!"

Yes current entry in NCaves is a bit out -

true entrances description now reads as
"In clints 450m out on bench from Turbary Road, in same field as Kail Pot and 6m from wall."
Beardy

 

[dunc]

Yes current entry in NCaves is a bit out

A bit   
Cheers Beardy, if I'm up that way again I'll have a nosey for it (even if it is only short!) - it was annoying not being able to find it as we'd found everything else we looked for but using the current NCaves description it's no wonder....

 

[Pitlamp]

Does anyone know where the alternative name "Creaking Death Pot" came from? When it was named Robinson Crusoe Pot this was because there was one set of footprints found in it. Which is the original name and can anyone come up with a written reference before 1982?

 

[Peter Burgess]

Maybe it was named Creaking Death Pot by the person who left the single set of footprints, before someone else named it Robinson Crusoe Pot? Just a thought. 

 

[s_allshorn]

GSG vol.1 no.2 pg.11 1975 Creaking Death Pot from GSG index, the bulletin is one that is missing from ULSA library.

 

[Pitlamp]

Is that definitely the same one as Robinson Crusoe Pot?

 

[dunc]

Looking at the small survey of Creaking Death Pot on cavemaps.org and reading the Robinson Crusoe Pot description they do seem to match up.

 

[s_allshorn]

Hi Pitlamp,
The grid ref. on the survey puts it out on the bench but on the wrong side of the wall, so in the field S of the Kail Pot field but still close to the wall. The survey shows the wall in the right place so I would say that the two are the same.

Thanks cavemapper for your help.

Sam