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ChrisJC

Well-known member
The second pitch is easy to negotiate without any gear. You just go up the slope instead, using the fixed rope, then around the traverse.

Chris.
 

Willy Eckerslyke

New member
The report from NWCRO was very well worded and is all that's needed really.
For those who haven't read it, it's on the NWCRO FB page:

OK some lost a bit of sleep that night, but no big deal.
 

ChrisJC

Well-known member
At some point the land owner is going to realise what is going on and borrow some 'chemical digging equipment' from our Yorkshire or Mendip cave explorers and blow the entrances in.

Chris.
 

RobinGriffiths

Well-known member
Yes, 2 shouts in a few months is a bit indulgent. If the Nationals rather than the Post get interested, that could be a problem.
 

Wayland Smith

Active member
At some point the land owner is going to realise what is going on and borrow some 'chemical digging equipment' from our Yorkshire or Mendip cave explorers and blow the entrances in.

Chris.

Which will be ironic considering that Cooks explosives used to store thousands of tons of "Bang" in there. :)
 

Cantclimbtom

Well-known member
At some point the land owner is going to realise what is going on and borrow some 'chemical digging equipment' from our Yorkshire or Mendip cave explorers and blow the entrances in.

Chris.
CRTT would still be possible without Croesor haulage adit and Rhosydd 9 adit, but you'd need a very long rope and not mind emerging slightly grubby. I've been meaning to do exactly that for ages but just not getting round to it. I know other here have explored that (ChrisJC I'm sure). It'd certainly keep the causal explorers out.

In some parallel universe where I have infinite spare time (it's not going to happen, I'm not even slightly close to that competence) one day I'd look at some B floor bridges, but can you imagine what a mega mission that'd be if those 2 adits were gone?
 

cavemanmike

Well-known member
CRTT would still be possible without Croesor haulage adit and Rhosydd 9 adit, but you'd need a very long rope and not mind emerging slightly grubby. I've been meaning to do exactly that for ages but just not getting round to it. I know other here have explored that (ChrisJC I'm sure). It'd certainly keep the causal explorers out.

In some parallel universe where I have infinite spare time (it's not going to happen, I'm not even slightly close to that competence) one day I'd look at some B floor bridges, but can you imagine what a mega mission that'd be if those 2 adits were gone?
You would have needed a 110 metre rope until speedy put the top(extreme) router in,you would probably get away with 100 metres now. But saying that it’s a long way down to get it wrong 😂😂😂😂
 

ChrisJC

Well-known member
I have abseiled down the Croesor main shaft, yes indeed. Also got off near the bottom to look at the upper floor. There's a lot of rope bounce when you get back onto a rope with 90m above you...

Chris.
 

Willy Eckerslyke

New member
A couple of popped through Rhosydd last night to check the boat ready for a potential trip next week. Just as well too, as it was barely afloat. It clearly hadn't been used since the NWCRO call out of a couple of weeks, as it was still on the Croesor side.

Someone with the best of intentions, no doubt, had replaced all the lines with miles of blue polyprop of the type that tangles when you so much as look at it. But we really couldn't get our heads around their reasoning for the way it was rigged. From the Rhosydd side, it was rigged with two lines of blue rope running parallel with one passing through a series of loops tied to the other with short lengths of climbing rope. The whole caboodle was horrendously tangled. It's a wonder the boat had reached the Croesor end at all. When we hauled it back, it was untied from the Croesor end, with another tangle of blue rope floating inside it. Apart from that, the boat was empty, no paddle, no bailer, just lots of water.

We've left it rigged simply, with one line from the front to the Croesor side, and one from the rear to the Rhosydd side. That really is all that's needed. Anything more complicated is asking for trouble. We had to use the same horrible blue rope but this way there's a chance that it'll work for a while.

Incidentally, the short rope up from the boat chamber to Rhosydd is looking very worn and furry. We'll take a replacement next trip but if you're in there before us, be careful.

So as ever, if you're doing the trip, be prepared to swim or retrace your steps if necessary.
 
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