droid said:
ChrisJC said:
RobinGriffiths said:
That's as lazy as classifying all people who voted for Brexit as being idiots.
well that generalisation is so widespread as to be treated as factual!
Chris.
Politician's trick that.
Repeat an untruth enough times....
It?s not unintuitive to conclude that Brexit might be negative for some (people who want cheaper labour) and positive for others (people supplying labour who want it to more expensive). It might well be worse (or otherwise) overall, but for sure there will be millions who think they might get a pay rise (and more attention from London) and would give it a shot. It?s not that stupid. I don?t even work, so for me higher wages only hurt - but I can live with that if it is going in someone's pocket. I have little time for elite media commentators who like their serfs to be cheap and completely expendable. The Guardian keeps running articles about the appalling shortages of au-pairs, nannies and cleaners. But on the upside one journo was thrilled she could once again fly to NY to do her Xmas shopping. Oink.
Most current estimates are suggesting it will be in the noise either way, so in the end it will be down to qualitative issues. My view is that it is in no-ones interest for the UK to be meaningfully divorced from the EU, and that the UK will eventually get what it wanted (free trade with minimal other stuff). The French twigged this up front, and their elite is absolutely popping (hence the comments from their PM recently). But no-one ever lost their seat for goading the French (and indeed vice-versa).
A great deal is made of the EU being about keeping the peace, and it probably does that. But what they really mean is it?s a vehicle to stop the Germans periodically slaughtering their neighbours, which is why Thatcher opposed German unification and the Germans had to agree to the Euro to get it. The Germans are now owed an absolute ton of money as a result by other countries who have no intention of ever paying it back. The UK leaving has indeed made it much worse for Germany politically and they recently had to agree to pool liabilities for the first time. I voted Remain to keep the Germans under control, so here?s hoping the French are up to it on their own, but it?s looking ropey.
All good clean fun, and I imagine someone will write a book about it some day.