Facebook community for cavers!
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Blakethwaite
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Eejays said:97 new members in less than 24 hours.. it can't be that bad:tease:
It goes back to what Dunc said earlier in the thread though:
dunc said:
On Aditnow we have an extremely strange Facebook group. Strange in that pretty much none of the users of the main site use the Facebook group and vice versa.
In my opinion the Facebook group (& groups generally) serves little or no purpose. Sites such as Aditnow & UKCaving provide a good semi-permanent record - past threads, documents or whatever can be easily found through either the site's own search facility or a Google search.
On Facebook once something has gone off the front page it appears pretty much to be lost for ever as far as I can tell and all it takes for that to happen is for someone to post 50 nearly identical photos of the same trip which happens with a fairly dreary frequency.
Eejays
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Very true Blakethwaite!
I totally agree about posts being lost etc.
I like facebook mostly for chitty chat between folks, I'm not saying it is the best because each different way of contact has its advantages, it is upto individuals which they prefer to use I guess
Everyone is different
I totally agree about posts being lost etc.
I like facebook mostly for chitty chat between folks, I'm not saying it is the best because each different way of contact has its advantages, it is upto individuals which they prefer to use I guess
Everyone is different
droid
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I'm on several forums that have Facebook groups too, and the main problem is linking the same people in both forum and Facebook. Few people use the same name for both.
So Blakethwaite's comment on the AditNow situation is incorrect.
Facebook's useful as another way of communicating. It's not an archive nor is it intended as such, but in a closed group it's a good way of organising events.
The number of mmembers is no indication of useful activity though, you're right on that one
So Blakethwaite's comment on the AditNow situation is incorrect.
Facebook's useful as another way of communicating. It's not an archive nor is it intended as such, but in a closed group it's a good way of organising events.
The number of mmembers is no indication of useful activity though, you're right on that one
Blakethwaite
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droid said:
No, its fairly accurate. Of the 8 admins on AN only 2 of us are members of the Facebook group. I thought I was a member but apparently not which goes to show how much I look at it...
I know the real names of the majority of the bulk contributors to AN, almost none of them appear to post on Facebook looking back through a year of postings on the site.
The Old Ruminator
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Resurrected.
682 Members now so it has not died. Just in case anyone is interested.
682 Members now so it has not died. Just in case anyone is interested.
Groan.....
UKC - run by cavers for cavers on a not for profit basis. Information saved and searchable
Facebook - doesn't give a stuff about cavers, caving or caves - owned by billionaires
Love it or loath it, facebook does bring folks to the forum - if you haven't liked our page yet, please do - 2230 likes to date
https://www.facebook.com/ukcaving/
Off to read this and cheer myself up (Have noticed that UKC facebook posts are 'reaching' fewer folks - and they send me numerous appeals to advertise.....)
http://time.com/34025/the-free-marketing-gravy-train-is-over-on-facebook/
UKC - run by cavers for cavers on a not for profit basis. Information saved and searchable
Facebook - doesn't give a stuff about cavers, caving or caves - owned by billionaires
Love it or loath it, facebook does bring folks to the forum - if you haven't liked our page yet, please do - 2230 likes to date
https://www.facebook.com/ukcaving/
Off to read this and cheer myself up
(Have noticed that UKC facebook posts are 'reaching' fewer folks - and they send me numerous appeals to advertise.....)http://time.com/34025/the-free-marketing-gravy-train-is-over-on-facebook/
Pegasus said:Groan.....
UKC - run by cavers for cavers on a not for profit basis. Information saved and searchable
Facebook - doesn't give a stuff about cavers, caving or caves - owned by billionaires
Love it or loath it, facebook does bring folks to the forum - if you haven't liked our page yet, please do - 2230 likes to date
https://www.facebook.com/ukcaving/
Off to read this and cheer myself up
http://time.com/34025/the-free-marketing-gravy-train-is-over-on-facebook/
Here's another one for you Pegasus: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/feb/16/parents-killed-it-facebook-losing-teenage-users
2xw
Active member
mudman said:Pegasus said:Groan.....
UKC - run by cavers for cavers on a not for profit basis. Information saved and searchable
Facebook - doesn't give a stuff about cavers, caving or caves - owned by billionaires
Love it or loath it, facebook does bring folks to the forum - if you haven't liked our page yet, please do - 2230 likes to date
https://www.facebook.com/ukcaving/
Off to read this and cheer myself up
http://time.com/34025/the-free-marketing-gravy-train-is-over-on-facebook/
Here's another one for you Pegasus: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/feb/16/parents-killed-it-facebook-losing-teenage-users
It was all you wrinkles getting on it sharing stuff that Snopes debunked and uploading pictures of babies :yucky: :yucky:
I have to send all my nudes on Snapchat now and all my wasted pics on my Finstagram
Caver Keith
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Facebook vs YouTube vs UKCaving
I too dislike Facebook but in terms of generating engagement with my videos it leaves everything else in the dust.
For example, my video ?Caving Claustrophobia Kill or Cure? has been on YouTube for over 700 days. In this time it has been viewed 840,000 times, i.e. 1200 views per day. In October a slightly shorter edit was featured on the Extreme page on Facebook. In just 120 days it has been watched over 27 million times - that?s an incredible 225,000 views per day!
My videos have also been freebooted on Facebook. ?The World of Caving? has been watched 2700 times on my YouTube channel. A freebooted version on Facebook has been viewed 67,000 times and trying to report it to Facebook is almost impossible. I do not usually upload my videos to Facebook but as an experiment I uploaded this one and it has been watched 7200 times in just 34 days.
Looking at YouTube analytics for my videos and specifically external sources, Facebook is 2nd and accounts for 22% of the views, Reddit is 7th with 3.4% and UK Caving is 11th with just 1% of the views.
I do not like Facebook, it does not provide the analytics that YouTube provides and searching for content is a pain, but there?s no doubt that it does generate traffic.
I too dislike Facebook but in terms of generating engagement with my videos it leaves everything else in the dust.
For example, my video ?Caving Claustrophobia Kill or Cure? has been on YouTube for over 700 days. In this time it has been viewed 840,000 times, i.e. 1200 views per day. In October a slightly shorter edit was featured on the Extreme page on Facebook. In just 120 days it has been watched over 27 million times - that?s an incredible 225,000 views per day!
My videos have also been freebooted on Facebook. ?The World of Caving? has been watched 2700 times on my YouTube channel. A freebooted version on Facebook has been viewed 67,000 times and trying to report it to Facebook is almost impossible. I do not usually upload my videos to Facebook but as an experiment I uploaded this one and it has been watched 7200 times in just 34 days.
Looking at YouTube analytics for my videos and specifically external sources, Facebook is 2nd and accounts for 22% of the views, Reddit is 7th with 3.4% and UK Caving is 11th with just 1% of the views.
I do not like Facebook, it does not provide the analytics that YouTube provides and searching for content is a pain, but there?s no doubt that it does generate traffic.
Caver Keith
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pwhole said:
Nothing from Extreme. I am due a payment from LADBible but I doubt if it will pay for the diesel to drive to the next video location.
RobinGriffiths
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Be interesting to see whether there is any shift in the balance between social media platforms including forums with the current facebook controversy. Several newspapers appearing today with articles on permanently deleting accounts. Myself, I left it in the dust years ago.
pwhole
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Having never succumbed to their advances, I'm not unduly worried myself, but the number of other sites that have offered me the option to login via my facebook account has increased recently. I wonder why.
I watched the report on C4 News last night chortling throughout - partly as it's so obvious that this sort of thing will happen, given the opportunity. And that Cambridge Analytica were caught out using their own tactics was lovely, though I guess you can't expect C4 news to shell out for Ukranian prostitutes, so all very civil. And then to hear them shamelessly claiming that they knew all along it was a setup, and were merely pretending to be corrupt twats until they could wriggle out of the meeting and go and sanctify themselves again. Trouble was they then kept pestering the fake client for weeks afterwards to set up an account with them. Sweet.
I watched the report on C4 News last night chortling throughout - partly as it's so obvious that this sort of thing will happen, given the opportunity. And that Cambridge Analytica were caught out using their own tactics was lovely, though I guess you can't expect C4 news to shell out for Ukranian prostitutes, so all very civil. And then to hear them shamelessly claiming that they knew all along it was a setup, and were merely pretending to be corrupt twats until they could wriggle out of the meeting and go and sanctify themselves again. Trouble was they then kept pestering the fake client for weeks afterwards to set up an account with them. Sweet.
