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goatchurch drainpipe

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stealths son

Guest
i tried to climb back up that way,my older brother had come down it and so i thought that i would give it a shot of going up it but i got stuck at the first hurdle!i couldn't pull myself or reach with my legs so i gave it a miss! i will have a second go when we go next!!! :)and i may also give the drainpipe a go just so then i can say I've done it even if i never do it again! (plus it will shut everyone that i go with up!)
 
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andymorgan

Guest
The Coffin Lid bypass is a good place for a practical joke. When your friend is going up the Coffin Lid, crawl underneath it and put your hands up either side of the Coffin Lid to scare your friend!

Just to second what Capn said the Drainpipe is not tight, but can be a bit claustrophobic. Maybe you should enter it but not crawl along see how you feel, and if your fear subsides continue. If not you can quickly back out. For the first few times I went to Goatchurch, I was always a bit nervous about the Drainpipe. After a few times I thought nothing of it. I don't know why I had the problem with it, I have never had smilar problems in any cave, or with any other obstacle.

 
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stealths son

Guest
andymorgan said:
The Coffin Lid bypass is a good place for a practical joke. When your friend is going up the Coffin Lid, crawl underneath it and put your hands up either side of the Coffin Lid to scare your friend.

i did notice(only when i was going down towards the water chamber i caught a glimpse of another lamp going down the coffin lid)that there are a few gaps in the bypass but i never thought of that (i think i'll do that next time aslong as i remember!)

andymorgan said:
Just to second what Capn said the Drainpipe is not tight, but can be a bit claustrophobic. Maybe you should enter it but not crawl along see how you feel, and if your fear subsides continue. If not you can quickly back out. For the first few times I went to Goatchurch, I was always a bit nervous about the Drainpipe. After a few times I thought nothing of it. I don't know why I had the problem with it, I have never had smilar problems in any cave, or with any other obstacle.

im not really claustrophobic,but i'm not sure on why i don't wouldn't to do the drain pipe
 

cap n chris

Well-known member
Anne said:
I have never heard of 'the vee'. The rift at the bottom (of the 'non-coffin-lid' route) that you can slide down to get to the water chamber is called Jacob's Ladder. That is always a good challenge for enthusiastic beginners, get them to climb out that way.

Ah, the Vee! I should have a go at this soon - I've only had a look at it before but never actually gone through. The Vee is the connection between Boulder Chamber and Water Chamber - as you enter Boulder Chamber from the Terrace head towards the left hand wall (i.e. where the dipping limestone meets the floor of the chamber) just before the letterbox squeeze is a drop down in the floor. This is the beginning of the Vee.

thevee.gif


Photo by Steve King (CSCC Secretary).
 
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stealths son

Guest
cap n chris what does this "drop down" look like is it a square /rectangular hole in the floor?or am i in the wrong place?
 

cap n chris

Well-known member
There are two drops in the floor in Boulder Chamber, apart from the obvious one beneath the Coffin Lid at the far end of the chamber. The first of the two drops is under the left hand wall as you enter BC from the Terrace, beneath the letterbox squeeze approaching from the rift/crack of doom (the approach into BC from the now-named Dining Chamber). The second of the drops in the floor is the obvious one you walk past as you progress along BC towards CL, again on the left hand side by the dipping ceiling. The Vee is down the first drop in the floor.
 

Elaine

Active member
Oh, that's called 'the vee' is it? I'd not heard of that, I've always referred to it as the s bend or the z bend, can't remember which.

I have been through it a couple of times to get to the water chamber. It is one of those things you feel you ought to do just to say you have done it, but need never repeat again.
 

Hughie

Active member
Anne said:
Oh, that's called 'the vee' is it? I'd not heard of that, I've always referred to it as the s bend or the z bend, can't remember which.

I have been through it a couple of times to get to the water chamber. It is one of those things you feel you ought to do just to say you have done it, but need never repeat again.

I've done it too. Although it took quite a while, and much kit removal. It took considerably longer for the graze (running from pubic bone to sternum) to heal. Don't really feel the need to go through it again!
 

badger

Active member
I would love to be able to do the vee, but dont fancy the broken ribs that would go with it for me to get through. Nether had a problem with the drainpipe find it more awkward than tight, I have had a go at the continuation at the end but after only just getting through the s-bend thought it wiser to not go further especially after watching my thin fellow cavers make it look tight, plus the tales of the stagnant water to go through ;). much more sensible to send everyone else through and enjoy a nice 5 minutes rest :coffee:
 

cap n chris

Well-known member
ian.p said:
that looks like the jack nife whats this vee you speek of

::) If you look, visually, using your eyes you may notice on the photograph the words, "The Vee"; the expression "The Vee" therefore comes from the photograph*.

You write, "that looks like the jack nife whats this vee you speek of".

Well, please allow me to do the same thing back and use your statement as the basis for a simple question.... What's this jack knife you write about?

Where did you get that name from?
Did you make it up?
If not, who did?
Where it is written/documented as being a passage name in the cave?

Just interested, as I've never heard of the Jack Knife and am keen to find out as much about every part of the cave as I possibly/reasonably can.

It's news to me. I'm all ears (and chins).... please enlighten me/us. Any sources of info about the cave gratefully received as they may feature in a forthcoming blockbuster in 2007.


* The photograph, just to point out to those people who seem to have no ability to take in detail, was NOT taken by me; for the second time of writing, the picture was taken by Steve King. FFS.
 

Peter Burgess

New member
cap 'n chris said:
ian.p said:
that looks like the jack nife whats this vee you speek of

Duuuur!  :coffee:

If you look, visually, using your eyes you may notice on the photograph the words, "The Vee"; the expression "The Vee" therefore comes from the photograph*.

You write, "that looks like the jack (k)nife(,) what(')s this vee you spe(a)ek of".

What's this jack knife you write about? Where did you get that name from? Did you make it up? If not, who did? Where it is written as being a passage name in the cave?

Just interested? I've never heard of the Jack Knife. News to me. I'm all ears (and chins).... please enlighten me/us.


* The photograph, just to point out to people who have no ability to take in detail, was NOT taken by me; for the second time of writing, the picture was taken by Steve King. FFS.

I've never heard of the vee, or the jack knife. Mind you, there's a lot I haven't heard of. And I call it the Tradesman's entrance and it shoud be the Back Door, I know.

PS - I like that picture what you took, Chris.  :tease:
 

graham

New member
All these ins and outs will be made clear when the new survey of Goatchurch currently being undertaken by Cap'n Chris & members of the UBSS is completed.
 

cap n chris

Well-known member
graham said:
All these ins and outs will be made clear when the new survey of Goatchurch currently being undertaken by Cap'n Chris & members of the UBSS is completed.


Although it's quite a complicated cave and the undertaking is relatively demanding, it's probably a safe bet to say that the survey will be completed before the publication of a long-awaited book about another Mendip cave.
 

graham

New member
cap 'n chris said:
graham said:
All these ins and outs will be made clear when the new survey of Goatchurch currently being undertaken by Cap'n Chris & members of the UBSS is completed.


Although it's quite a complicated cave and the undertaking is relatively demanding, it's probably a safe bet to say that the survey will be completed before the publication of a long-awaited book about another Mendip cave.

:LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:

Are you going again this week?
 
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