Kenilworth said:
the mental laziness that has made attempts at conversation on this site so frustrating.
Cheers pal, making friends again I see!
when you talk of mental laziness, what was this about?
Kenilworth said:
You are starkly polar opposites being an American on here. In America, I presume access to someones land is still along the lines of going up to them and asking in person or risking it and them accusing you of trespassing before they shoot your head off with a choice of guns on their pickup.
In the UK access to land is much different, for one do a search for Ingleborough estates office online and you might get some idea...
other than that particular example, some of the land in Yorkshire is owned by people who run Grouse (or bird) shooting on their land. So potentially you've got a much higher chance of getting your head blown off if you get it wrong!
Most of the land in the UK is quite intensively farmed, mainly sheep farming where we go caving, and farmers get quite protective over their little baby lambs, so a little tact when dealing with landowners is sometimes needed.
For this reason, people understand and have respect for those people who deal with landowners on our behalf, ie the organised bodies you seem HELL bent on Scorning.
take one look at a new topic on mouldridge mine.
our country is smaller and much more densely populated than your Karst areas, landowners are understandably worried about walkers walking into a hole.
please respect the position we are in, and we may try to respect you and your opinions.
otherwise, FEEL OUR FURY! and amuse yourself elsewhere on the internet.