Idiots

[whitelackington]

As no response,
do we take it that
no one has yet been charged with removing the gates from Ogof Draenen & Drws Cefn
Quote Hughie "That'll be a waste of time, then!  :-\" 

Anybody know when the next PDCMG meeting is likely to occur?

 

[SpeleoTrog]

With no CCTV, no witnesses and nothing other than hearsay to point towards any suspect(s), it's unlikely that anyone ever will be charged. However, reporting it to the police is not necessarily a waste of time. You need a crime reference number to even consider an insurance claim for example. You could also claim repair/replacement cost through the governments own criminal compensation scheme. Again, you need a crime reference number to do that.

 

[kay]

And it is difficult for police forces, government etc to plan an appropriate level of provision if they don't know what the level of crime is.

 

[Les W]

And it is difficult for police forces, government etc to plan an appropriate level of provision if they don't know what the level of crime is.

So if enough cave gates are stolen then the police may set up a special cave crime unit...

:-\

 

[Hughie]

With no CCTV, no witnesses and nothing other than hearsay to point towards any suspect(s), it's unlikely that anyone ever will be charged. However, reporting it to the police is not necessarily a waste of time. You need a crime reference number to even consider an insurance claim for example. You could also claim repair/replacement cost through the governments own criminal compensation scheme. Again, you need a crime reference number to do that.

Only for them to nick them again.

As I said - a waste of time. Far better and long lasting to catch the culprits and slap their hands about a bit ........... with a lump hammer.

What did the police do = send the hobby bobbies out?

And it is difficult for police forces, government etc to plan an appropriate level of provision if they don't know what the level of crime is.

To achieve that would entail actually catching some criminals, wouldn't it?  :-\

 

[kay]

And it is difficult for police forces, government etc to plan an appropriate level of provision if they don't know what the level of crime is.

To achieve that would entail actually catching some criminals, wouldn't it?  :-\

No. If you come downstairs in the morning, find a window has been forced open, and your wallet, car keys and car have gone, you can tell a crime has been committed even though it's unlikely that the criminal will be caught.

But as long as people say "there's no point in reporting it to the police" people can say "crime has gone down, there won't be any problem in saving 25% of costs by reducing police numbers.."

 

[graham]

And it is difficult for police forces, government etc to plan an appropriate level of provision if they don't know what the level of crime is.

To achieve that would entail actually catching some criminals, wouldn't it?  :-\

No. If you come downstairs in the morning, find a window has been forced open, and your wallet, car keys and car have gone, you can tell a crime has been committed even though it's unlikely that the criminal will be caught.

But as long as people say "there's no point in reporting it to the police" people can say "crime has gone down, there won't be any problem in saving 25% of costs by reducing police numbers.."

 

[Hughie]

Round these parts you wouldn't even notice a 25% reduction. By the same standards you wouldn't notice a 25% increase either  . To be fair we do live in a very rural area though.

I thought the police were there to maintain law and order, rather than just dish out reference numbers.

However - they did launch their heat imaging search helicopter when a nearby peasants tractor and slurry tanker got pinched a while ago. They managed to tail it for a while but lost it! They did find the slurry tanker though (it was dumped in the middle of the road) but lost the tractor. You really couldn't make it up.

 

[AndyF]

What was an idiotic waste of time was someone reporting the ebay listing of the gates..... it was obviously a gag. That wasted 2x officers for half a day I dare say at what cost to the taxpayer. To553rs.

 

[cap n chris]

Zero cost to the taxpayer because those two officers would be getting paid ?X per hour even if they were eating donuts and watching paint dry.

 

[cavermark]

or even catching real criminals?

 

[menacer]

Zero cost to the taxpayer because those two officers would be getting paid ?X per hour even if they were eating donuts and watching paint dry.

Andy is right Chris. eg.
Its unlikely that no other Police work needed doing whilst they spent the time on this case. Subsequently Police officers from further a field would have needed to be drafted in, thats an increase in fuel costs alone.