Interesting challenge for someone wanting a house in the Dales ...

Blea Moor cottage for sale
Is "the right buyer with vision" estate agent speak for moneyed deluded person?. Just tangentially I looked, briefly, at an investment opportunity somewhere in the Dales, Grassington perhaps, when we were off down some cave (such is partial memory lapse), office (vet as sitting tenant), storerooms and upstairs flat for £5000, admittedly that was mid-1980's, it seemed a bit steep then, clearly I wasn't wise enough.

Jim
 

kay

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Bet it'll cost a bomb to heat that in winter.
It's an interesting problem. Service are not connected nor available. When last occupied, electricity was from a small windmill since removed, cooking via calor gas, heating via a multifuel stove, water carried up by vehicle (vehicle - 4x4 - access by license at £125pa), waste into septic tank/cess pit now disconnected

The answer is probably - it won't cost a bomb, but it won't be heated either, not to 21st century standards.
 

Flotsam

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House prices in rural locations are in high demand. Prices are through the roof. At a glance that property looks about in line.
 

zzzzzzed

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House prices in rural locations are in high demand. Prices are through the roof. At a glance that property looks about in line.
For £350k you could buy the Helwith Bridge pub a few miles down the road with a four bedroom flat above it...
 

Flotsam

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Who would want to own or run a pub these days? Using the pub as anything other than a pub would require change of use under Planning
 
Who would want to own or run a pub these days? Using the pub as anything other than a pub would require change of use under Planning
Hopefully it stays as a pub then! Wouldn’t want the YSS to lose some of its charm as a club within stumbling distance of watering hole!
 

wellyjen

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Hopefully it stays as a pub then! Wouldn’t want the YSS to lose some of its charm as a club within stumbling distance of watering hole!

I did notice that the Helwith Bridge sales blurb only mentioned cavers once and the YSS being next door not at all!
 

braveduck

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Spoilt for choice ,the Golden Lion and the Crown in Horton are also for sale ! Times they are a changing !!!!!!
 

Brains

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With commercial energy bills being uncapped, it is rumoured most chippies and pubs won't survive the winter 😳😢
 

braveduck

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With commercial energy bills being uncapped, it is rumoured most chippies and pubs won't survive the winter 😳😢
Yes,before all this change Gas bobbed up and down around 70 dollers a therm .Today it was 550 ! Also households pay 5% vat on fuel ,but every body else pays 25% .
 

Fjell

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People have had several decades of cheap gas. It’s normally much cheaper than oil, but is geographically constrained by transport (hence LNG). We are currently exporting gas to Europe from LNG, hence it is actually a bit cheaper here at the moment, but not much.

Holland have all but shut down Groningen due to little subsidence earthquakes, and that combined with the Norg storage was the backbone of the grid in western Europe. We are currently sending power to France, which is not normal. People campaign in the UK to shut down domestic production without building a replacement first. It’s all a bit of a clusterfuck.

Gas is way cheaper in the US (as an example) at the moment, so if we expose industry to these prices for long they are pretty screwed. I know people focus on the low paid, but that is not really where the big damage will happen.

If you believe that we will cease burning fossil fuels by 2050 then people had better get used to paying a lot more. There are no cheap options given the basic need for either storage or nuclear. Storage costs more than building windmills.
 
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