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LOST: DINOSAUR IN PENYGHENT

Alex

Well-known member
There's plenty of older replacement dinosaurs in the rock if you look closely, though it would be frowned upon to chisel them out!
 

Fulk

Well-known member
Hiya mikem, sorry If I've misinterpreted your remark, and apologies in advance if that is the case, but it seems (to me, anyway) as though you are using the word 'dinosaur' as a term of abuse . . . 'retired cavers', 'old fogies', etc.

The fact is that the dinosaurs were a spectacularly amazing and successful group of animals, perhaps the most successful of all the (big) animals who have ever live on this poor old Earth. And many people think that they did not die out, but live on as birds. Note – not that birds are descended from dinosaurs, but birds are actually living dinosaurs. There is some discussion as to whether the 4 classes of terrestrial vertebrates – birds, mammals, amphibians and reptiles – should be reorganized into 5 classes – mammals, amphibians, reptiles, (endothermic) dinosaurs (to include birds) and (endothermic) pterosaurs (who were neither dinosaurs nor reptiles).
 
Hiya mikem, sorry If I've misinterpreted your remark, and apologies in advance if that is the case, but it seems (to me, anyway) as though you are using the word 'dinosaur' as a term of abuse . . . 'retired cavers', 'old fogies', etc.

The fact is that the dinosaurs were a spectacularly amazing and successful group of animals, perhaps the most successful of all the (big) animals who have ever live on this poor old Earth. And many people think that they did not die out, but live on as birds. Note – not that birds are descended from dinosaurs, but birds are actually living dinosaurs. There is some discussion as to whether the 4 classes of terrestrial vertebrates – birds, mammals, amphibians and reptiles – should be reorganized into 5 classes – mammals, amphibians, reptiles, (endothermic) dinosaurs (to include birds) and (endothermic) pterosaurs (who were neither dinosaurs nor reptiles).
is this a joke
 

Fulk

Well-known member
No; why don't you Google 'Are birds dinosaurs', and see what you get. Meanwhile, to whet your appetite, here's a picture of a Deinonychus, a 3-m early-Cretaceous theropod dinosaur in all her fully-feathered glory. But, don't be fooled by the cutsy, big-bird appearance; see those big claws on her feet? They're wicked weapons – sharp sickle-shaped claws that are 5 or 6 inches long. If you bumped into her and she was hungry, she'd probably stand on one leg and disembowel you with one slashing strike from her sickle on the other foot before eating you. And don't think that you could run away! With her light, strong hollow bones (like those of a bird), her long shin bone when compared with her thigh bone, her advanced breathing system (again, like those of birds, which are considerably more efficient than those of mammals) and her endothermic metabolism, she could probably run very quickly – certainly faster than you or I could.
Deinonychus.jpg
 

wellyjen

Well-known member
No; why don't you Google 'Are birds dinosaurs', and see what you get. Meanwhile, to whet your appetite, here's a picture of a Deinonychus, a 3-m early-Cretaceous theropod dinosaur in all her fully-feathered glory. But, don't be fooled by the cutsy, big-bird appearance; see those big claws on her feet? They're wicked weapons – sharp sickle-shaped claws that are 5 or 6 inches long. If you bumped into her and she was hungry, she'd probably stand on one leg and disembowel you with one slashing strike from her sickle on the other foot before eating you. And don't think that you could run away! With her light, strong hollow bones (like those of a bird), her long shin bone when compared with her thigh bone, her advanced breathing system (again, like those of birds, which are considerably more efficient than those of mammals) and her endothermic metabolism, she could probably run very quickly – certainly faster than you or I could.View attachment 17737
Is this the answer to the missing dinosaur report? Nessie has evolved and flown out of Penyghent Pot. Should people be looking in nests in trees in the area?
 

mikem

Well-known member
Much more likely to have swum out...

[I was just referring back to Long Drop's comment on previous page]

The joint we see in birds'legs is equivalent to our ankle, so it's foot & shin bones (you can just see the knee in picture, but thigh is hidden behind body feathers)
 
this is really a beautiful photograph
Suppose you need to say "was", I suspect most people are aware of the intervention of a few idiots so the tree was chain sawed a few weeks ago. The site's been sorted although some damage to The Wall happened and possibly the resultant timber will be used somewhere near by, maybe Housesteads. The NT and others hope to provide a replacement or the stump will send up shoots presently. However Nessie won't find that perch available for many years to come.

Being honest I've walked past it on and of for nearly 60 years and paid no heed.

Puts potholing/mining damage in a degree of context.

Jim
 

Fjell

Well-known member
"The world is passing through troublous times. The young people of today think of nothing but themselves. They have no reverence for parents or old age. They are impatient of all restraint. They talk as if they knew everything, and what passes for wisdom with us is foolishness with them. As for the girls, they are forward, immodest and unladylike in speech, behavior and dress."


Peter the Hermit, AD1274
 

langcliffe

Well-known member
Aristotle said about 1,500 years earlier than that: "Young people have exalted notions, because they have not yet been humbled by life or learned its necessary limitations; moreover, their hopeful disposition makes them think themselves equal to great things."
 
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