Not everyone's a fan of caving it seems

[irnbru]

I have always enjoyed the Caver Keith Videos - they show a genuine love of caving and help to convey what it's like to cave in an (in my view) excellent, informed way.

Youtube allows anyone to comment, whilst you will get some nice comments it's a good place for the ill informed and keyboard warriors types with nothing better to do with their time.

Let them comment and you can confine them to the same apathetic wastelands inhabited by Katy Hopkins and Elon Musk - by simply just ignoring them.

Commenting just feeds their ego - so don't... 

 

[Simon Beck]

Let them comment and you can confine them to the same apathetic wastelands inhabited by Katy Hopkins and Elon Musk - by simply just ignoring them.

One has got nothing to do with the other!

 

[Ian Ball]

Hmm Katy Hopkins and Elon Musk is an interesting pair of examples!

 

[RichardB1983]

Youtube allows anyone to comment, whilst you will get some nice comments it's a good place for the ill informed and keyboard warriors types with nothing better to do with their time.

And it's amazing that those people who couldn't possibly stomach going caving and hate the thought of tight spaces have still actively chosen to watch a video about caving in tight spaces.

 

[andrewmcleod]

I believe that YouTube comments represent the greatest source of idiocy on the planet. If you can't manage pretty much anything else, you will still probably find yourself on YouTube at some point spouting drivel...

 

[mrodoc]

The internet has just revealed how many idiots there are in the world.They were always there. As I heard in one lecture 'remember the average IQ is only 100'.  Some of you old enough to know the term will recognise the expression  poison pen letter. This was a form of literary trolling. However pre internet it had the advantage that those sending the letters had to be able to think long enough to  find a pen, some paper, an envelope, some stamps, probably research an address and then actually produce something that was comprehensible then be arsed to find a post box to put said letter in it. Nowadays anybody can type out some phonetic drivel punch a button and fire it out if we haven't been lucky enough for them to walk into a lamp post while doing it.

 

[droid]

Not worth getting mithered about.
There was a saying 'todays news is tomorrows chip wrapper'. In a month the news providers will have moved on and the divers and hangers on  (like Musk) will be forgotten about.

Caving will go back to being a minority and largely hidden pursuit.

 

[braveduck]

By hidden pursuit ,I assume you mean  not outdoors !

 

[AR]

I believe that YouTube comments represent the greatest source of idiocy on the planet. If you can't manage pretty much anything else, you will still probably find yourself on YouTube at some point spouting drivel...

Randall Munroe got it absolutely spot on several years ago with this XKCD classic:
https://www.xkcd.com/202/

Apparently, when NASA released some cleaned-up footage of the moonwalks some years back, someone posted the fake comments here verbatim on it and they were indistinguishable from all the other crap being spouted unless you were familiar with the cartoon. I've always loved the "why not tell Louis Armstrong to his face" one, particularly in light of what Buzz Aldrin did to the dickhead who did come and abuse him to his face!

Going back to the Thai rescue, it now looks like Elon Musk is going to get sued for libel, and rightly too...

 

[Boy Engineer]

However pre internet it had the advantage that those sending the letters had to be able to think long enough to  find a pen, some paper, an envelope, some stamps, probably research an address and then actually produce something that was comprehensible then be arsed to find a post box to put said letter in it

And not just in pre-internet days, judging by the letters page of The Guardian last Saturday   
But certainly not in the poison category. Always nice to spot a familiar name. I trust you didn't use email?

 

[mrodoc]

Me? Never ! On a more serious note I realise now that my tendency to hoard has paid off in my collection of letters from cavers going back over 50 years. It is amazing what long letterw we used to write too.

 

[Caver Keith]

Thanks for all of the comments and suggestions - the philosophical ones, the practical ones and the amusing ones. It never ceases to amaze me just how ignorant non cavers are about cavers and caving. I generally only reply to comments where a sensible question has been posed. Also I hold potentially inappropriate comments for review which rids the channel of some of the worst excesses.

Yesterday I uploaded a new video and Grizzly has commented, "I'm confused..?" I can't think why. Can you?

http://youtu.be/iuLKgspvo_c

 

[shotlighter]

Thanks for all of the comments and suggestions - the philosophical ones, the practical ones and the amusing ones. It never ceases to amaze me just how ignorant non cavers are about cavers and caving. I generally only reply to comments where a sensible question has been posed. Also I hold potentially inappropriate comments for review which rids the channel of some of the worst excesses.

Yesterday I uploaded a new video and Grizzly has commented, "I'm confused..?" I can't think why. Can you?

http://youtu.be/iuLKgspvo_c

Can see why folk are confused. Where was the Fat Controller & who was that impostor masquerading as A Knight of the Realm? 
BTW How did you do the pyro? Most excellent.

 

[Simon Beck]

Although I admire Keith for the effort he obviously goes to, in sharing his experiences with the masses. I can't say I've ever been a big fan and find his material a bit childish and cringe worthy at the very least. So it's not just everyone, but some cavers who are not big fans either. Your depiction of caving doesn't speak for all of us and neither do I want it to. I think you just need to accept you're going to get a bit of shit off folk instead of whinging about it here. 

 

[Caver Keith]

Although I admire Keith for the effort he obviously goes to, in sharing his experiences with the masses. I can't say I've ever been a big fan and find his material a bit childish and cringe worthy at the very least. So it's not just everyone, but some cavers who are not big fans either. Your depiction of caving doesn't speak for all of us and neither do I want it to. I think you just need to accept you're going to get a bit of shit off folk instead of whinging about it here.

Thanks Simon for your contribution. I do feel I that need to respond to your observations.

Bit childish?  Yeah. Possibly very childish.

Cringeworthy? Yep.

Depiction of caving not speaking for everyone? Agreed.

Needing to accept I'm going to get a bit of shit off folk. Have accepted it since I began the channel.

Whinging? Possibly/probably.

BTW What do you think of the Thomas the Tank Engine video?

 

[Tribal Chestnut]

Nowt wrong with a good whinge.

 

[Simon Beck]

BTW What do you think of the Thomas the Tank Engine video?

My mates 5 yr old son would have loved it not so long ago, although he's big into John Deere tractors now, so maybe not.

Did you miss out on childhood?

 

[2xw]

You could do one about cave digging Keith. I'm picturing several Golem lookalikes furiously masturbating over a spade (and then each other) then writing an overly verbose fan fic about it.

 

[Caver Keith]

Ever wished you had never started a thread?

 

[Simon Beck]

Ever wished you had never started a thread?

Don't worry Keith, been there plenty myself in the past and rightly deserved it.

Don't deviate from what you believe just because others disagree.