mikem said:That just leaves reptation & flattener.
PeteHall said:Could "flattener" be a literal translation of something like "press" eg the Cheese Press?
mikem said:The difference being that there is a route through a ruckle, whilst there isn't through a choke.
mikem said:The difference being that there is a route through a ruckle, whilst there isn't through a choke.
But was that route obviously open originally, or was it engineered? I agree that cavers aren't very good at differentiating all sorts of things!langcliffe said:mikem said:The difference being that there is a route through a ruckle, whilst there isn't through a choke.
I can understand your logic, but in common caving parlance, I'm not convinced. The latest Northen Caves, for example, describes the Notts II to Lost Johns' connection as: "Beyond here is involved route rising through a complex choke for 140 m to emerge at the top of boulder choke at end of Lyle Cavern High Level Series".
Mining terminology is a whole other kettle of fish...Fishes said:Gallery is also used to describe horizontal (or nearly horizontal) passages in mining
Duck ditch said:Aven too. Probably from mining. I thought french too but wiki says an aven in French is a swallow hole. Which then brings in swallet. Not many of those oop north.