Passage names

[blackshiver]

OK here is another one. Hudgill burn mine cavern has lots of Russian Themed names. The guys initially broke though a iron stained fin which crossed a passage and they called this The Iron Curtain. As the massive survey grew we needed to make sense of the place and the Russian theme continued, an area of heavy breakdown became Stalingrad. The big passage became the Trans Siberian Highway and a dug tight section became The Thin Red Line - named after an incident during the Crimean war which was being fought at the time Hudgill Burn mine was actually operating (1854).

 

[Duck ditch]

It?s the rock in front of formation not the formation

 

[mikem]

Have to scroll across the picture (I know you can reduce size, but couldn't be bothered to work out how at this time of night - so if mod wants to do it...)

 

[mrodoc]

Rob Harper has a penchant for wacky names. Simon Brooks and I surveyed Attila the Hun's Sardine Cannery in Wookey 20 some years ago.

 

[mikem]

Hypoxia?

 

[Badlad]

Back to the Platypus - why is the assumption that it was broken by vandalism ("...some twat stood on it and broke it off").  We've had several incredible floods in the area over recent years. Flood water in parts of the system has been 30m high.  The power of this especially when draining down is unimaginable.  The rock is exposed and fractured.  Natural erosion could easily have played a part.

..and while we're on names, there's a Vandals passage somewhere, isn't there?

 

[Badlad]

PS - does anyone else think the photographs of the Platypus above are not all of the same thing?  The first two look very different from the later two.

 

[langcliffe]

Back to the Platypus - why is the assumption that it was broken by vandalism ("...some twat stood on it and broke it off").

Possibly, according to Duckditch who knew the perpetrator, because that was what happened.

 

[Badlad]

Well, there seems to some confusion here taking all the above posts into account.

 

[mikem]

The first two pics are definitely of something else (as noted by Trogger & langcliffe in following posts), it's also possible that the perpetrator broke something different again (doesn't seem to have changed that much in other two pics, although they are from slightly different angles), but he could well have stood on it to see if there was anything higher up, which levered the already fractured end off...

 

[Badlad]

Apologies, skim read the thread and missed some of the crucial bits out.  Mystified by the photos, dates, etc.  Anyway digressing from names.

Long Kin West and Pugwash Passage, the site of a (near) recent breakthrough.  Pugwash passage was so called because a certain person was practically blinded in one eye while pushing this many years ago.  Although it actually turned out that it wasn't Captain Pugwash who had one eye - it was Cut-Throat Jake.  Hence after the breakthrough we entered Cut-Throat Chamber.  And then climbed the Black Pig Avens (Captain Pugwash's Ship).  Later after a pause we broke into the Hostile Environment.  Nothing to do with Pugwash and his mates but by then Windrush was in full swing in the media.

...and the relevance of this to the OP is that Pugwash is the upstream continuation of the Late Breakfast Series. 

 

[oldboy]

Here?s are two more (well, not passage names, but nevertheless cave feature names) from the Easegill System . . . both, sadly, now gone:

Platypus Junction
The Plumber?s Nightmare

And another from the archives - Plummber's Nightmare

 

[Fulk]

More names:

The first three pitches of Strans Gill Pot are called Faith (Pitch), Hope (Pitch) and Charity (Pitch).

Now, I?ve not heard it straight from the guys who originally explored this pothole (Harry Long et al.), but from the nature of the pitches (P-1 and P-2 quite short, but tight and awkward, so you need faith in your capacity to get back up the first, you can only hope you?ll get back up the second, while P-3 is a big pitch of ca. 150 ft in a large rift).

I guess that they must be named after the bit in the Bible where St Paul says (I paraphrase):

I commend unto thee these three, Faith, Hope and Charity, and the greatest of these is Charity.

 

[Robert Scott]

Yet more names.

Marilyn:  It wasn?t surveyed by the diggers but a different team within the club, so they were unaware of the names of the pitches as it was being dug.

The entrance is named ?Seven Year Pitch?, the first underground pitch with boot-sized top is ?Some Like It Not? followed by ?Gentlemen prefer Blonde? then along the crawl to ?Niagara? dropping into Disappointment Pot.

Unfortunately the first three pitches seemed to get rolled into one once they were rigged for SRT.

 

[Ian Ball]

That is very interesting.

I find it odd in the Dales when a cave isn't named as a pot or a cave.

 

[mikem]

Boggart's roaring holes...

 

[langcliffe]

Boggart's roaring holes...

A nice piece of Victoriana... It was named by Balderstone: see "Ingleton Bygone and Present", page 45.

"We measured the depth through the later and found a stoppage at fifty-three feet ; then on entering the yawning aperture the process was repeated with a similar result, but on throwing stones downwards these appeared to go much further than the line, clinking onwards. At length there was a cessation of the clatter, but there began to creep upwards another dull sound, something between a roar and a growl in its intonation, appearing to come from a deep cavern far to the southwest? hence the name of Boggart's Roaring Hole that we have applied to this place, which heretofore was nameless. Prompted by the results obtained from mere sound, we cast the line further in to see if the obstruction in the way of the plummet could be avoided, with the astonishing result that the depth proved to be nearly three times the amount already obtained. The line was then sent down from the opening above and shaken past the obstacle when the depth was found to be one hundred and forty-five feet, with a slope above of fifteen more."

 

[blackshiver]

The ?Drain Queens Highway? in Cliffe Force Cave was named after the discoverers wife who was a hydrologist.

 

[Duck ditch]

Here is what I am led to believe is the reasoning behind the naming of Ireby Fell Cavern by the BSA when they discovered it in 1949.

The first 2 pitches Ding and Dong are named after the phrase ?dingdong? often used in carry on films when a man sees a beautiful woman.
?Cavers wish to return to the womb and see caving as a sexual act.  Female cavers dont exists. If they do they suffer from penis envy?.. Sigmund Freud et al.  So it is true. Please do not read on if you are offended.
So now that the cavers has penetrated the beautiful cave (ding dong).  They are now proud of there penis hence the name Bell pitch as in Bell end.
Pussy pitch is next, resembling a vagina and is quickly used.
You are now Well (pitch) into the cave.
A deviation from the way on is Glory Holes representing the several orifices that can be utilised.  Indeed North East Passage is a common phrase for the back passage.  Finally Duke Street is a reference to the Grand Old Duke of York, because he HAD 10,000 men.

Many cavers think the pitch and passage names are taken from a popular  and childish nursery rhyme, but the BSA were a sexually frustrated group of Cavers.  I think we all know what is more likely.
Don?t blame me, blame Freud and the lockdown.

 

[Fulk]

Hmmmmmmm . . . well, if penis envy exists, I think it?s a purely practical manifestation of what it must be like for a woman in a cave, in a small boat out on the ocean, up on a mountain, wherever, who wants to take a piss ? and she sees how easy it is for a bloke (and f*** Fraud err, sorry, Freud).

Be that as it may, I wonder where the name ?Lante Shop Cave? came from.