Passage names
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Duck ditch
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I think Freuds sexual psychology is of course rubbish. I was trying to take the piss out of it. Every word of my post was meant to be funny.
Having said that the BSA in 1939 were just as sexually frustrated as in 1949. Lante Shop Cave was originally called Lanty Shop Cave. You are correct it is an anagram of Lace Panty Oh. Due to the entrance shape.
Having said that the BSA in 1939 were just as sexually frustrated as in 1949. Lante Shop Cave was originally called Lanty Shop Cave. You are correct it is an anagram of Lace Panty Oh. Due to the entrance shape.
Duck ditch
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Can you shed any light on why it was called Attila the Huns Sardine Cannery?
Just a flight of fancy or did you find an old tin of sardines in the dig.
Just a flight of fancy or did you find an old tin of sardines in the dig.
PeteHall
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Duck ditch said:
I believe there is no significance to it at all, other than the fact that it is tight and a pretty awful (possibly awesome) bit of cave. Incidentally, when I helped Duncan Price re-survey this a few years ago, we were able to push the "end" by moving a couple of small rocks to a boulder slope, which ascended back to the main passage, allowing us to close the loop on the survey and avoid the crawl back out
Duncan Price
Active member
PeteHall said:Duck ditch said:
I believe there is no significance to it at all, other than the fact that it is tight and a pretty awful (possibly awesome) bit of cave. Incidentally, when I helped Duncan Price re-survey this a few years ago, we were able to push the "end" by moving a couple of small rocks to a boulder slope, which ascended back to the main passage, allowing us to close the loop on the survey and avoid the crawl back out
Here's the "official line" from "Who was Aveline anyway"
It is effectively the lower end of an inclined bedding forming the Wookey 20 main passage divided from it by rocks.
In Wookey 22 there is an aven called the "Mongol Hordes Information Office"
The Old Ruminator
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Naming parts of a new cave is a complex procedure. I quite like the idea of a double meaning where the discovery time is linked to something topical and may also have a meaning relating to the area in question. In our case it sometimes lead to argument and inaction as we see at Vurley. ( I still dont know where Vurley originates )
The Frozen Deep epic took place on the 200th birth anniversary of the writer Charles Dickens. We ended up with -
Great Expectations. ( there were ).
Hard Times ( it was )
The Frozen Deep I came up with. A play performed by Dickens relating to the Franklin Expedition in the Arctic where all were lost. The relation to the cave was that the first thing we saw was a huge wall of stal that looked like ice. Later when cryogenic material was found in plenty there the name became even more relevant.
Resurrection also had two meanings. Old resurrected diggers found it and it continued the Easter story started by Willie Stanton at Golgotha .
The series was completed by Ascension and Heaven's Landing both descriptive of the area as well.
Skyfall could have been Chicken Licken Choke but became Skyfall as the film was on at the time and boulders fell from the sky. ( My broken arm there ).
Pickwick Passage and Dingley Dell were also Dicken's references in Reservoir Hole.
La La Land was named after the film award fiasco which happened at the time. It also signified the many loose boulders there where there. It was better to sing la la la and pretend not to notice them.
WIShyou Were Here incorporated Willie Stanton's initials and signified the agonising wait for the rest of the team to return from Iceland.
Maidez in Vurley was the French term for Mayday as it was found on May the first.
We never got around to naming the four pitches as the survey remained incomplete.
As newsletter editor for Cerberus I named a lot of stuff at Fairy Cave Quarry. These included -
Withyhill and Hillwithy both essentially part of Withybrook - Hilliers streamway. A simple word reversal.
In St Dunsatns well I had -
Domestos Bend ( horrible u shaped duck )
The Buttocks. ( a tight squeeze )
In Withyhill.
Stal Shuffle
Fatbelly Rift. ( you have one if you can't walk through it - I can't now )
Green Lake Chamber
Jonathan's Chamber. My son was one when I found it.
We never named the big chamber at the end
Caves I named in the Quarry
Rumble Tumble Hole
Roses Rift
Culdesac Pot
Prices Purgatory ( as he was a slim youth then we pushed him down it ).
I was using the names to save the best for me. It never happened
In WL ( Whitaker Lavis ) we found Hammer and Chisel Rifts. The tools we used.
Whilst in house digging team jokes look fine they are often beyond the wit and understanding of others.
Naming caves or parts of caves after people is now considered to be rather unacceptable. Chipchase Chasm will never be seen.
Our new chamber at Fairy Cave Quarry had suggestions for Corvid Chamber relating to the pandemic and Jackdaws in the quarry. The feeling is that in time its something we won't want to be reminded of.
The Frozen Deep epic took place on the 200th birth anniversary of the writer Charles Dickens. We ended up with -
Great Expectations. ( there were ).
Hard Times ( it was )
The Frozen Deep I came up with. A play performed by Dickens relating to the Franklin Expedition in the Arctic where all were lost. The relation to the cave was that the first thing we saw was a huge wall of stal that looked like ice. Later when cryogenic material was found in plenty there the name became even more relevant.
Resurrection also had two meanings. Old resurrected diggers found it and it continued the Easter story started by Willie Stanton at Golgotha .
The series was completed by Ascension and Heaven's Landing both descriptive of the area as well.
Skyfall could have been Chicken Licken Choke but became Skyfall as the film was on at the time and boulders fell from the sky. ( My broken arm there ).
Pickwick Passage and Dingley Dell were also Dicken's references in Reservoir Hole.
La La Land was named after the film award fiasco which happened at the time. It also signified the many loose boulders there where there. It was better to sing la la la and pretend not to notice them.
WIShyou Were Here incorporated Willie Stanton's initials and signified the agonising wait for the rest of the team to return from Iceland.
Maidez in Vurley was the French term for Mayday as it was found on May the first.
We never got around to naming the four pitches as the survey remained incomplete.
As newsletter editor for Cerberus I named a lot of stuff at Fairy Cave Quarry. These included -
Withyhill and Hillwithy both essentially part of Withybrook - Hilliers streamway. A simple word reversal.
In St Dunsatns well I had -
Domestos Bend ( horrible u shaped duck )
The Buttocks. ( a tight squeeze )
In Withyhill.
Stal Shuffle
Fatbelly Rift. ( you have one if you can't walk through it - I can't now )
Green Lake Chamber
Jonathan's Chamber. My son was one when I found it.
We never named the big chamber at the end
Caves I named in the Quarry
Rumble Tumble Hole
Roses Rift
Culdesac Pot
Prices Purgatory ( as he was a slim youth then we pushed him down it ).
I was using the names to save the best for me. It never happened
In WL ( Whitaker Lavis ) we found Hammer and Chisel Rifts. The tools we used.
Whilst in house digging team jokes look fine they are often beyond the wit and understanding of others.
Naming caves or parts of caves after people is now considered to be rather unacceptable. Chipchase Chasm will never be seen.
Our new chamber at Fairy Cave Quarry had suggestions for Corvid Chamber relating to the pandemic and Jackdaws in the quarry. The feeling is that in time its something we won't want to be reminded of.
Vurley is an ancient name, so you probably never will get an answer:
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg13418236-200-forum-there-i-was-surveying-this-hole-willie-stanton-believes-that-environmental-protection-should-begin-at-home/
However, Vir means man & ley is a temporary meadow:
https://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Vurley
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg13418236-200-forum-there-i-was-surveying-this-hole-willie-stanton-believes-that-environmental-protection-should-begin-at-home/
However, Vir means man & ley is a temporary meadow:
https://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Vurley
pwhole
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I find it extremely difficult to name passages, even ones I've discovered. For someone with an extremely active imagination I find it almost impossible - not coming up with some words, that's the easy part - it's the philosophical conundrum of why those words, and to which part of the system they're applied, especially if there's no clear distinction between sections - often a transition between a passage and a chamber can be very gradual. And even more so if the place has demonstrably been occupied by previous tenants, i.e. miners. In our current project I think I've only named one passage and that was only as it was relatively confusing for folks which one I was talking about.
Maybe if it gets bigger, but I may still have to leave that job to someone else - though beer/drinking references are banned :halo:
Maybe if it gets bigger, but I may still have to leave that job to someone else - though beer/drinking references are banned :halo:
Subpopulus Hibernia
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It is a dream of mine to locate a group of caves, name the series Every Hole's a Goal, and name every cave in it after a famous goal - e.g.
Maradona v England Pot
Van Persie v Spain Hole
Roberto Carlos v France Cavern
etc.
Maradona v England Pot
Van Persie v Spain Hole
Roberto Carlos v France Cavern
etc.
howardlimbert
Member
My favourite is "duck with a bicycle pump up its arse". This is a passage was a low duck in Northern Vietnam cave. This fantastic name came from our team visiting a cafe in Vietnam where they saw a duck ( dead) with a person inflating it using a bicycle pump . Don't ask me why he was doing this but we did find it amusing hence the passage name. Mick Nunwick I believe came up with the name.
langcliffe
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Pitlamp said:
Apparently the original explorers were trying to create a passage name out of their initials and failed, so took the easy way out.
