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Peak go bang!

Rob

Well-known member
In Peak Cavern today with Batgirl doing the Rocky Tube - NCC shaft roundtrip to finally get the survey tied up. Just as we dropped down into Galena Rift (at exactly 14:33) there was a tremenous boom! The sound didn't come from along the passages, it was from the rock! We both felt the ground shake. Lasted for about the same time as i would expect a large explosion to take.
Does anyone have any ideas? Was anyone diggin in there somewhere? Do you think it could have been from the quarry?
 

nickwilliams

Well-known member
Rob said:
In Peak Cavern today with Batgirl doing the Rocky Tube - NCC shaft roundtrip to finally get the survey tied up. Just as we dropped down into Galena Rift (at exactly 14:33) there was a tremenous boom! The sound didn't come from along the passages, it was from the rock! We both felt the ground shake. Lasted for about the same time as i would expect a large explosion to take.
Does anyone have any ideas? Was anyone diggin in there somewhere? Do you think it could have been from the quarry?

Leaving aside obvious but smutty allusions to the mile under club, I'd have thought that blasting activity in the Hope Cement Works quarry could cause this - it's not very far away from parts of the Peak system.

Sitting in our living room in Hucklow I used to be able to clearly distinguish the number of 1/4 second delay detonators they were using when they were still working Milldam Mine. The blast face was probably about 500m away at that point and they were using no more than 100kg of explosive per round. I don't know the exact details of blasting at Hope (although I could probably find out if you really wanted to know) but the charge sizes used in modern quarries are usually measured in tonnes and are initiated with sequenced detonators which spread the explosion out over a period of up to several seconds.

In fact _had_ anyone been using bang in the Peak system (where its use by cavers is banned, BTW) then IME you would have heard/felt it as an air blast rather than through the rock.

I bet if you phone Lafarge tomorrow they will tell you if they were blasting today, and if so at what time. Eddie will also be able to tell you what time they generally blast (usually these things are done on a pretty regular schedule), although I think he was out on business this afternoon.

Nick.
 

SamT

Moderator
Yup - my guess would be hope cement works - It was usually 3pm on most week days as I remember from my days at hope valley college. If you happen to be in or arround the same bed of limestone that is being blasted - chances are you'd 'feel' it quite clearly.

Either that - or a huge collapse in mine close by.

I can just picture you all stopping dead for a moment - then the concerned glances at each other :shock:
 
E

emgee

Guest
Cave_Troll said:
given those two i would have thought it would give them more ideas than anything else...

Can I just point out the dangers of grit and sand in this area.
 

Peter Burgess

New member
I recall reading an old book on Derbyshire caves (can't remember who or what except that it was written in the 1930s or 1940s I think), and in it some unexplained phenomena were described - explosions, or loud bangs.

They weren't in the Peak Cavern area - I think they were supposed to have happened in the Manifold valley area, near Thor's Cave?

Were those mystery explosions ever explained? I think at the time they were described as 'geological', - ground movements or similar.
 

Brendan

Active member
Roger W said:
This one's been quiet for a bit...

Have any more bangs been experienced since May?

There were suspicious noises coming from Rob and Batgirl's tent in Crete


Ohhhhhh, you mean noises in the Peaks. Don't know
 
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