Mrs Trellis
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Does anyone have figures for the show caves - to see whether the extractor fans make a difference? Given the basalt above Peak-Speedwell one would imagine this area isn't great.
The simple answer is no for the UK as they are kept confidential. But Hyland's thesis at p46 and p170 points to it being used with effect.Mrs Trellis said:Does anyone have figures for the show caves - to see whether the extractor fans make a difference? Given the basalt above Peak-Speedwell one would imagine this area isn't great.
SamT said:tdobson said:Thanks Pwhole for the split!
I thank you..
tdobson said:"At what point does the risk of lung cancer from Radon exposure get similar to the risk from smoking?"
tdobson said:"At what point does the risk of lung cancer from Radon exposure get similar to the risk from smoking?"
Mark said:tdobson said:"At what point does the risk of lung cancer from Radon exposure get similar to the risk from smoking?"
Doug Nash would have been the man to ask on this one, he smoked cigarettes from the age of 11, started smoking a pipe 18hrs a day in his 50s, because cigarettes were bad for him.
He spent most of his life in Radon riddled mines (work and play) and lived in a high radon area in Eyam
Lived to 95
Back in the days of carbide and ladders, smoking underground was a common thing. Sparking up from a stinky was almost a pleasure in itself. In these enlightened times electrons, stinkies and smokes are generally frowned upon everywhere. In some backwards places fireworks etc. are still seen as acceptable to a minority...mrodoc said:The effect of radon on smokers is synergistic ie smoking amplifies the risk of lung cancer with co exposure many fold (cannot recall how many). I have always maintained that with the number of active cavers in the UK it would be very difficult to establish a link once you have removed all the cavers who smoke. Nowadays the numbers of cavers who smoke has dropped (if they behave like the general population) so perhaps a caving epidemiologist could look at this again.
The image a beardy caver in grots on a ladder, hiding under a texolex and stinky with a dog end glued to a lip is not that out of date in some respects
Mark said:tdobson said:"At what point does the risk of lung cancer from Radon exposure get similar to the risk from smoking?"
Doug Nash would have been the man to ask on this one, he smoked cigarettes from the age of 11, started smoking a pipe 18hrs a day in his 50s, because cigarettes were bad for him.
He spent most of his life in Radon riddled mines (work and play) and lived in a high radon area in Eyam
Lived to 95
Pitlamp said:What time of year was that Giants study done Adep, out of interest?
I try not to think what sort of dose we must have got on all the round the clock trips in Peak Cavern's Far Sump Extension before the JH and Titan surface connections were made, allowing draughts to begin. Thank goodness I don't smoke.
The image a beardy caver in grots on a ladder, hiding under a texolex and stinky with a dog end glued to a lip is not that out of date in some respects
Really? I don't think I've seen such a creature this century (and for several years before).