Reduce your impact

[Loki]

'You will own nothing and be happy'...this thread sounds like a (WEF) dream. One must be careful what you wish for. Whilst you're all happily abstaining and blowing yourself voluntarily back to the stone age maybe let an eye wander over to what the big guns are doing; how are they living? How many houses they own and how many flights they are taking to tell you to eat bugs and stay home.
Electric isn't as clean as many seem to think it is far away behind the scenes in the huge lithium mines, and GM food isn't ever going to be as simply cultivated as your local farmers and growers market is....

But collectively doing fcuk all is not an option. I remember wildlife in the woods, having to clean bugs off the the front of the car, butterflies in the garden, being able to smell the flowers in the spring instead of diesel fumes, alpine climbs that didn’t throw rocks in the summer, winters with snow, using snow chains, fields instead of giant warehouses and soulless housing estates. I sound like some old pensioner harking back to the good old rose tinted days of old but I’m 47. What is going to be left for even the the next generation to enjoy when so much has been lost in my lifetime already. Doing sod all is not an option despite what you think of jso tactics. At least they care.

 

[cap n chris]

But collectively doing fcuk all is not an option.

It is actually.

 

[Lizzie84]

But collectively doing fcuk all is not an option. I remember wildlife in the woods, having to clean bugs off the the front of the car, butterflies in the garden, being able to smell the flowers in the spring instead of diesel fumes, alpine climbs that didn’t throw rocks in the summer, winters with snow, using snow chains, fields instead of giant warehouses and soulless housing estates. I sound like some old pensioner harking back to the good old rose tinted days of old but I’m 47. What is going to be left for even the the next generation to enjoy when so much has been lost in my lifetime already. Doing sod all is not an option despite what you think of jso tactics. At least they care.

Maybe read it again, I didn't suggest doing f'k all.
I remember all that stuff too. I'm also sad about the potential of what will be left for the next generation- they will have a big fight on their hands. But I won't want my kids to be the leftards tipping the milk away in tescos whilst squaring up to some granny just trying to earn a crust to pay her extortionate electric bill...

 

[oldfart]

Drink more beer. This will stop you driving or, if it does not, Mr Plod will.

 

[aricooperdavis]

It is actually.

Doing nothing is an option, but you have to accept the direct consequences of that choice, which is the death of hundreds of millions and the suffering of billions more (and that's just counting humans).

But this thread isn't about whether we should be doing something about the climate crisis, it's an opportunity to "stop and consider our own actions and their impacts on the environment.".

We, as a household, have decided to share 1 car, which is an incredible privilege of course, but also a sacrifice when one of us is stuck at home missing an opportunity because we're not as able to travel. We definitely could go carless and rely on public transport, but that's a step too far for us at the moment. I can see it happening eventually though.

 

[Pitlamp]

You need a motorbike in the family. ;-)

 

[Speleofish]

e-bikes are good. Especially in summer....

 

[cap n chris]

Doing nothing is an option, but you have to accept the direct consequences of that choice, which is the death of hundreds of millions and the suffering of billions more (and that's just counting humans).

Net Zero will kill hundreds of millions, if not a billion+

 

[JasonC]

Net Zero will kill hundreds of millions, if not a billion+

In the end, we all die. It's not really about deaths, it's how much of a mess we make of the world.
What's at stake, isn't the planet - that will go on in some form, but human civilisation, at least as we know it, might easily not.

 

[aricooperdavis]

You need a motorbike in the family. ;-)

Haha, don't tempt me further, I'm already looking longingly at 125s locally!

 

[Pitlamp]

You can have oodles of fun on a 125, without breaking the bank. They're quite lean on fuel too, compared with a car (which is what this topic is about). Very convenient for nipping to places and parking problems are far less of a concern than with a car.

Ride safe though . . . .

 

[pwhole]

Have a look at a carbon footprint calculator.

WWF Footprint Calculator

Calculate your environmental footprint and learn how you can reduce your impact with WWF's Footprint Calculator.

footprint.wwf.org.uk

Might give you a few thoughts of small measures.

I'm feeling slightly smugger after doing the test, though I'm not giving up meat just yet - too much prussicking to do

CONGRATULATIONS!
Your annual footprint is well below the UK average. Keep up the great work and share your score!

YOUR FOOTPRINT IS EQUAL TO 8.1 TONNES

 

[JasonC]

I'm feeling slightly smugger after doing the test..

I scored about the same, so we can both bask in a warm glow of self-righteousness - and turn the thermostat down another degree...

 

[Rob]

I scored about the same, so we can both bask in a warm glow of self-righteousness - and turn the thermostat down another degree...

You have your heating on already!?!

 

[AR]

Net Zero will kill hundreds of millions, if not a billion+

How? Do you have a proper source for that assertion?

 

[cap n chris]

How? Do you have a proper source for that assertion?

Yes.

 

[AR]

Good, now cite it here so that other people can investigate it and consider how credible it is.

 

[ChrisJC]

Well my footprint is 13.6 tonnes according to that which is well over average.

Odd there were no questions about children though, it's hardly like they have no emissions.

Chris.

 

[cap n chris]

Good, now cite it here so that other people can investigate it and consider how credible it is.

No. Do your own research. I'm genuinely angered with people attempting to undermine this kind of stuff. Credible global organisations don't need you to nay-say their findings so gfy. Back at you: how many peoples' lives will be augmented/saved/improved by Net Zero and will the world population benefit from its implementation. Cite your sources.

 

[Loki]

https://theconversation.com/amp/climate-scientists-concept-of-net-zero-is-a-dangerous-trap-157368. Try this.