Scanty Lardos - why?

[JasonC]

Having enjoyed a good trip down there last night, I have to ask 'why?' - why is it called that, I mean?
I've had a quick Google, and watched Joe Mellor's excellent video on its discovery, but am none the wiser.
And while we're at it, why 'Ann Summer's passage'? It's a fun passage but not in an erotic way, not even slightly....
Any elucidation welcome!

 

[JAA]

Alas I can’t help with the naming but I don’t suppose any of it is still rigged is it?

 

[LightsOut]

Alas I can’t help with the naming but I don’t suppose any of it is still rigged is it?

The pitches are not permanently rigged. Just a couple of bits of tat - one to get higher up in a tight bit of Ann Summer’s passage and the other to scramble up the terminal choke in ‘The Office’.

 

[Loki]

Don’t know the answer but I thought it sounded like a cave for overweight people with a height deficiency.
As for Ann summers passage, without being crude, does the cross section give anything away?

 

[Pie Muncher]

Anne Summers - simply cos whilst the team were enlarging the squeeze the conversation was about a birthday present purchased for one of their girlfriend's at the time from said retail outlet. An undergarment with a bit missing, usually an integral part of such an item.

 

[LadyMud]

"An undergarment with a bit missing, usually an integral part of such an item."
So not unlike Queen Victoria's Bloomers in Ingleborough Show Cave . . .

Back then, when women only wore long skirts, the "base layer" was like a petticoat slit up the front and back. The edges were tied together with ribbon to create "legs". These garments were nicknamed "Free Trade Drawers". We found a pair, when clearing out my mother's house, and donated them to a museum.

Probably a useful garment for today's lady cavers?

 

[hannahb]

Is it pronounced lard-ohs, or lardoss?

 

[georgenorth]

“Lardoss” I believe Hannah - as in a Spanish pronunciation…

 

[hannahb]

“Lardoss” I believe Hannah - as in a Spanish pronunciation…

Cool, that's how I've been saying it

 

[JasonC]

Having enjoyed a good trip down there last night, I have to ask 'why?' - why is it called that, I mean?

Nearly 4 years later, I am disappointed that the collective hive mind of UK Caving has utterly failed to answer my original question.
Pshaw! I say, and pshaw! again.

 

[Pegasus]

Nearly 4 years later, I am disappointed that the collective hive mind of UK Caving has utterly failed to answer my original question.
Pshaw! I say, and pshaw! again.

I also want to know Jason - it's a great name for a cave

 

[georgenorth]

Definitely a great name - clearly nobody wants to spoil the mystique by explaining it!

 

[Alex]

Scanty means very little/insufficient and Lardos is a village in Greece, so it's a little bit of a village/beach in Greece, or it's insufficient to be a village in Greece?

 

[mikem]

I'd assumed that the larger members of the team had to take their suits off to get through, but Google AI tells me:
"The etymology consists of two parts:
Scanty: Refers to the cramped nature of the cave's initial passages and small squeeze points.
Lardos: A jokey corruption of Ann Summers (a well-known British retailer of intimate apparel and sex toys). During the excavation of the cave's tight squeeze, the exploring team was having a conversation about a skimpy lingerie item purchased from Ann Summers for a partner. This also resulted in a section of the cave being officially named Ann Summers Passage."

 

[Babyhagrid]

I'd assumed that the larger members of the team had to take their suits off to get through, but Google AI tells me:
"The etymology consists of two parts:
Scanty: Refers to the cramped nature of the cave's initial passages and small squeeze points.
Lardos: A jokey corruption of Ann Summers (a well-known British retailer of intimate apparel and sex toys). During the excavation of the cave's tight squeeze, the exploring team was having a conversation about a skimpy lingerie item purchased from Ann Summers for a partner. This also resulted in a section of the cave being officially named Ann Summers Passage."

Id rather trust words typed at random by nobekys than this Ai nonsense. It's inaccurate and confidently wrong far too often to be useful and I'm surprised that so many forum users are still under its spell

 

[mikem]

I'll stick with my assumptions until one of the explorers tells me otherwise, just posted it as clearly built up from Pie Muncher's comment above - so how on earth is Lardos supposed to be "A jokey corruption of Ann Summers"!

 

[huwg]

"Sat on a boat in Greece discussing suggestions with Rocket and Caddy we were chatting about the initial proportions required to gain access before widening was undertaken. Lardons begat Lard Arse begat Lardos."

Dependably Damp by Steve Woods

Scanty Lardos Pot: Mick Ellerton, Steve Woods, Olly Rees (Over and Under) & Rich Hudson (BPC), 28th July 2020. It’d been a protracted abstinence. Various new ‘guidelines’ and details were…

whiterosepotholeclub.wordpress.com

Google AI has mangled it unfortunately.

 

[mikem]

Turns out lardo is a pork product from Italy as well:

Locavore 101 - Rethinking Lard/Lardo - edible Southeastern Massachusetts

By Adam Centamore It’s hard to think of fat as a healthy food. So much of what we’re shown and taught on television and online claims the exact opposite. Diet […]

ediblesema.com

 

[mikem]

& of course, in the south we have:

Lardy cake - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[ChrisB]

Lardons begat Lard Arse begat Lardos

That would suggest to me that Lardos is the plural of Lardo - so the pronunciation would be "lardoes"?