Spring 2007

[cap n chris]

Too many of them would likely be a bad thing!

Tautology; similar to the cholesterol survey.

Minor quibble ends; you can stop ignoring me now (if you like)....

 

[Elaine]

I did think of wording it in a more scientific way, but I worried that no one would think I was lovely anymore if I got too bossy.

 

[cap n chris]

I'm sure you could manage to be bossy and lovely. I prefer you being just lovely.

P.S. It's hammering down outside and blowing a gale. Central heating's going on again in a mo'.

 

[Elaine]

No rain down here a few miles further South. Much wind though. We are going to brave the elements and head off to the Hunters shortly.

 

[whitelackington]

I'm sure you could manage to be bossy and lovely. I prefer you being just lovely.

P.S. It's hammering down outside and blowing a gale. Central heating's going on again in a mo'.

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We hope to be using a theodolite on our survey of The Rakes,
this Friday, apparently you cannot use them in the rain, they will mist up
and stay misted up.

 

[whitelackington]

I heard today on the wireless that
"Today is the first day of Autumn"
Where's our bloody global warming when we want it

 

[cap n chris]

.... and tomorrow will probably be the first day of next Spring, immediately followed by Winter and then Spring again. All before the weekend.

Great.

 

[Elaine]

I heard today on the wireless that
"Today is the first day of Autumn"
Where's our bloody global warming when we want it

Global warming does NOT mean lots of lovely sunny warm days.

It means more wet and windy weather, more stormy weather, more extremes of weather. If it was to be warm and sunny all the time, what would happen to all the extra water that evaporated?

 

[cap n chris]

Another way of putting it is this:

Warmth = energy = vigorous weather

 

[gus horsley]

Another way of putting it is this:

Warmth = energy = vigorous weather

Exactly.  I'm getting seriously brassed off with the number of people who come to me and say things like this summer's proving that global warming doesn't exist.  My reply is that we're going to get more extremes and unpredictable weather patterns.  The point is that summers like the one we're having is verification that our weather systems are getting f*****d up.

 

[kay]

Yes. Global warming does not necessarily mean local warming.

It does mean an increase in unseasonable weather.

Rweport in today's Guardian of some national survey on people's concerns shows that the percentage of people who think global warming is the biggest problem we face has slipped from somewhere over 20% to somewhere in the teens. Depressing. I had hoped people were beginning to get the message.

 

[Les W]

"Global warming" as a phrase is now out of favour with the government, scientists and the media. It gives the wrong impressions to your average undereducated masses. The new buzz words are "Climate Change". This is a much better description of what will occur because of the average increase in global temperatures.

 

[whitelackington]

"Global warming" as a phrase is now out of favour with the government, scientists and the media. It gives the wrong impressions to your average undereducated masses. The new buzz words are "Climate Change". This is a much better description of what will occur because of the average increase in global temperatures.

Well not being edumacated, I quite liked the global warming phrase.
We have just been sat in the shed watching the rain hammering down, while we were trying to get on our srt rig.
No Global Warming in Bracknell,
this must be our most horrible summer ever.
Although as I said I liked "Global Warming"
I think u lot may be right, climate change
does seem more appropriate
at least for England

 

[mak]

Global warming and climate change are not strictly the same thing.

You can have climate change without global warming, the climate is by it's very nature changeable, local changes can occur irrespective of global trends in temperature.

Global warming is about the average temperature of the whole earth increasing, when talking about a 0.5 degree rise over an extended period most people will just think that's a good thing (i.e. warmer = nicer - doh!).

Climate change is likely to be affected by global warming, the prediction for the UK is warmer drier summers and wetter winters, but of course the climate is naturally variable and subject to other drivers of change than just CO2 emissions (or global mean termperature), so the phrase "extreme weather" is being coined to highlight the issue.


Obviously it is easier to justify taxing us on the back of preventing "extreme weather" than preventing warming - one conjurs up images of floods/droughts/tornadoes etc, the other conjurs up images of being slightly warmer when sat on the beach eating an ice cream.