Tackle bags

[ah147]

To be fair, just somewhere to clip something to the inside of be bag is nice. Pockets and flaps and padding and stuff, not so much.


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[ah147]

Oh, and making a bag for hard caves and a bag for punters puts the prices up for everyone.


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[Madness]

Costs can be reduced by standardising parts and reducing variation and unecessary 'frills'

One colour
One weight of PVC
Minimum number of models
Tape loops not metal rings
Loops made from same tape as handles and straps.
Etc

Good but basic bags should sell if priced competitively

 

[ah147]

Yeah, what he said, but with metal ring


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[Canary]

For a general purpose caving sack:

• Separate hauling loop and internal loop for clipping krabs to within the sack.
• Round not oval
• I don't find that flap of material on the inside of the draw string closure much use
• Separate drawstring closure and hauling cord

The asymmetric closure on the landjoff sacks does look like a good idea though.

 

[Alex]

Simple for me: The straps and the bag do not wear out! The Petzle one, which sacrifices the drain holes for better durability. Without the drain holes I find water tends to actually get in the bag less anyway.

 

[ah147]

Oh drain holes aren't too big an issue. Most water gets in the bag when you're dunking it.

Most people just turn the bag upside down to empty it.

But drain holes mean you don't have to, which is nice.


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[Alex]

I have gone off drain holes anyway as if water can get out that way, it can get in, often.

 

[cooleycr]

Off topic but a friend of mine who has been an active caver since the 50's has "drain holes" in his wellies..
He finds that it is easier to walk in them as they empty while he walks so he is carrying less weight around and with wet-socks on he doesn't notice anyway (and he isn't as agile as he once was so can't lift his leg up to empty them like a youngster would)..

 

[ianball11]

Simple for me: The straps and the bag do not wear out! The Petzle one, which sacrifices the drain holes for better durability. Without the drain holes I find water tends to actually get in the bag less anyway.

The Petzl range is made from thermoplastic polyurethane so it should remain supple for longer as pvc hardens with age.  The classique is a brilliant bag but you pay a lot for it.  Not sure how not having drain holes effects durability?

I also have a friend who chopped off the leg section of his wellies to stop having a kilo of water to drag around.

I also like a light colour so you can write on them with a black pen if needs be.

 

[paul]

While at the Euro Speleo Congress at the Vercors in 2008, we saw quite a few different tackle bags at the equipment sellers' area. We found that not a single tackle bag had any drain holes, including ones often seen for sale in the UK. It appears that only Brit cavers want drain holes and importers or resellers add them for the UK buyers. It was easy enough to insert brass eyelets into the bags we bought when we were home again.
I too always have drain holes in my wellies, mainly to lessen the vacuum when trying to get them off, but with the added benefit that they also allow water to drain out.

 

[Pitlamp]

I was contemplating this topic a couple of days ago when trying to undo fiddly krabs from tape haul loops with frozen and gloved sausage fingers. I confess this may have involved the odd profanity . . . .

Give me metal D rings for hauling points any day!

 

[ianball11]

In annoyance with tape loops, I stuck a carbine hook on the one I had to make a ring and sewed up the loop to stop the ring falling down the loop.
Not as good as a metal d ring though.