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GSR
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i was just thinking that the best trips in yorkshire have not been listed in this forum, yet. my vote would be for the valley entrance pull through in simpson's pot. what are the other unmissable trips in the dales?
Simpsons pull through is nice..
For a bit of SRT and passage - Meregill is a fine trip and Lost Johns is also good (exchange with Boxhead makes for a good trip).
I believe Penyghent Pot is a classic, but not done that yet so can't comment (damn weather!)
One of the finest ladders trip is Birks Fell Cave, that would take some beating, quote northern caves 1 "one of the finest sporting potholes in the north"
Scenic trip would be Alum Pot, an exchange with Diccan Pot is good.
For a bit of variety, Lancaster Hole to County Pot - via Wilf Taylors and Main Stream.
For a bit of SRT and passage - Meregill is a fine trip and Lost Johns is also good (exchange with Boxhead makes for a good trip).
I believe Penyghent Pot is a classic, but not done that yet so can't comment (damn weather!)
One of the finest ladders trip is Birks Fell Cave, that would take some beating, quote northern caves 1 "one of the finest sporting potholes in the north"
Scenic trip would be Alum Pot, an exchange with Diccan Pot is good.
For a bit of variety, Lancaster Hole to County Pot - via Wilf Taylors and Main Stream.
cap n chris
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I enjoyed Swinstow pull through trip very much; question - just how thin do you need to be to do the Simpsons trip?
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pothole pils
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Well I managed it and i'm anything but thin, there's only one tight bit IIRC, not helped by it being at the top of a pitch and having to have the stop on, but I guess if I can fit through, almost everyone can.
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George North
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Unfortunately I havn't done a lot of the classic trips yet, but here's my selection anyway:
1. Gods own pothole, in the county next to gods own county (Cumbria)- Pippikin Pot
2. Most splendid SRT trip - Juniper Gulf, or maybe Nick Pot, or Rowten, or Cow pot, or Lost Johns.......
3. Most annoyingly wet Pothole - Dihedral - trully magnificent, but too wet on the dryest day of the year, damn!
4. Squalidist pothole in the land - Craftsman's Pot? (too squalid for most!)
5. Best through trip in God's own Pothole, in Gods own County, not invoving God's own pothole - Link to Wretched Rabbit.
6. Pothole with the coldest water - Dow Cave (Dowbergill passage) (too cold)
7. Scariest, steepest, scree slope - King Pot
8. Pothole with most potential for fantastic discoveries beyond grim duck - Tutman's Hole.
9. Pothole most likely to be plagued by boy scouts, squaddies, lost ramblers, and other assorted speleoscum - Long Churn, closely followed by Valley Entrance.
10. Pothole most likely to be better than anything in Wales - Alum Pot :wink:
1. Gods own pothole, in the county next to gods own county (Cumbria)- Pippikin Pot
2. Most splendid SRT trip - Juniper Gulf, or maybe Nick Pot, or Rowten, or Cow pot, or Lost Johns.......
3. Most annoyingly wet Pothole - Dihedral - trully magnificent, but too wet on the dryest day of the year, damn!
4. Squalidist pothole in the land - Craftsman's Pot? (too squalid for most!)
5. Best through trip in God's own Pothole, in Gods own County, not invoving God's own pothole - Link to Wretched Rabbit.
6. Pothole with the coldest water - Dow Cave (Dowbergill passage) (too cold)
7. Scariest, steepest, scree slope - King Pot
8. Pothole with most potential for fantastic discoveries beyond grim duck - Tutman's Hole.
9. Pothole most likely to be plagued by boy scouts, squaddies, lost ramblers, and other assorted speleoscum - Long Churn, closely followed by Valley Entrance.
10. Pothole most likely to be better than anything in Wales - Alum Pot :wink:
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GSR
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going to have to give that a look 8)George North said:
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cave shrimp
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hey george.
wot u got against squaddies and scouts :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:
wot u got against squaddies and scouts :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:
1. God had some strange taste then (at least he chose a pot in a proper county) :wink:
2. I'd agree with your list of fine trips there..
3. Impressive indeed, managed to go up it once when winch meet was on, entertaining watching worried tourists whizzing up and down GG.
4. Awww, come on, Craftsmans is a classic!!
5. See 1
6. Yep Dowbergill water is very chilly, I would also bung Out Sleets Beck Pot and Red Moss Pot in the cold water category.
7. Not done yet
8. Whos hole? (Dunc quickly flicks through northern caves..) Is this a classic worth visiting then??
9. :shock: You not like any of them bods? Calf Holes and Great Douk can also be busy with novices.
10. Goes without saying.
JJ
Member
Hey what about Ireby, a classic little Dales trip which was even better in the days of ladders.
But for the big trips Lost Johns is the best. However for that long way from home feeling the bottom of Pen-y-ghent is great, especialy if the majority of the pitches have been free climbed.
But for the big trips Lost Johns is the best. However for that long way from home feeling the bottom of Pen-y-ghent is great, especialy if the majority of the pitches have been free climbed.
If you are going to venture into the Ireby Fell cavern, I can wholly recommend going up the North East Inlet before heading on to Duke Street and the sump. No extra tackle is required and you are rewarded with some fine formations. It also makes the trip up to an entertaining grade IV.
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George North
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"Hey george.
wot u got against squaddies and scouts
:?: :?: :?: :?: :?: "
Personally nothing, just as long as they're not: down caves, on top of mountains, at crags......... :wink:
(Apologies, I guess I could have included student clubs under the speleoscum description aswell.)
Re: Grim caves, whilst Craftsman' s may be grim, I should really have mentioned 'The Grind' in Easegill, 600m of crawling through filth. Even our clubs keenest squalorophile was repulsed after only 10m of this repugnant passage.
Unfortunately I have yet to visit 'The passage of outer slime', at the bottom of Crescent Pot, which is described as being 'unspeakable' in the normally reserved NC3. I suspect it may well be a contendor.
Re: Tutman's Hole. A fine cave near Alston, only chosen for being the only descent thing discovered by DUSA, in this country in the last 30 years.
wot u got against squaddies and scouts
:?: :?: :?: :?: :?: "
Personally nothing, just as long as they're not: down caves, on top of mountains, at crags......... :wink:
(Apologies, I guess I could have included student clubs under the speleoscum description aswell.)
Re: Grim caves, whilst Craftsman' s may be grim, I should really have mentioned 'The Grind' in Easegill, 600m of crawling through filth. Even our clubs keenest squalorophile was repulsed after only 10m of this repugnant passage.
Unfortunately I have yet to visit 'The passage of outer slime', at the bottom of Crescent Pot, which is described as being 'unspeakable' in the normally reserved NC3. I suspect it may well be a contendor.
Re: Tutman's Hole. A fine cave near Alston, only chosen for being the only descent thing discovered by DUSA, in this country in the last 30 years.
My vote for best Yorkshire trip is the exchange Lost Johns to Boxhead - it really has got everything going for it - deep caves with plenty of ropework - several big (up to 40m) pitches - impressive situations - some muddy, some cleanwashed - tricky and sometimes improbable routefinding - some good formations en-route - scary SRT on old fixed ropes with iffy anchors to add a bit of adventure - tight bits and some wet wallowing - and to cap it all its all next to the road!! Easegill is great but doesnt have the big pitches to go with it - and I still havn't done Pen y Ghent...
ian mckenzie
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A Brit friend of mine tells me his best trip was down Yorkshire Pot, a cave in Canada; 386m deep, 12km long, six consecutive entrance pitches, and it now has a lower exit. Sometimes compared to Lost John's, but I don't know...
bubba
Administrator
We don't tend to hear much about Canadian caving - is there a lot of it? The chief mechanic at the place I get some work done on my car is a Canadian, and he started chatting to me about caving in BC after noticing the tackle back in the boot! Up until then I didn't realise there was any caving in Canada, which is a bit daft admittedly, but then I never realised the Rockies contained a lot of limestone.
ian mckenzie
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Well its a big country so there's bound to be *some* caving... :wink:
We've a relatively small caving population, stuff here is a little further off the roads, plus we've fewer pubs so we're at a disadvantage. However our two prime regions are worth a visit. In the Rockies we've caves scattered about, our longest is 20km, deepest is 536m, deepest pitch 254m, temperature -2 to +4C, generally dry, sometimes muddy, always with loads of loose rock, and most are seldom visited. On Vancouver Island access is better and caves more numerous and better decorated, tho not as deep or long (tho they are trying to catch us :? ). In both places new discoveries are relatively commonplace.
We've a relatively small caving population, stuff here is a little further off the roads, plus we've fewer pubs so we're at a disadvantage. However our two prime regions are worth a visit. In the Rockies we've caves scattered about, our longest is 20km, deepest is 536m, deepest pitch 254m, temperature -2 to +4C, generally dry, sometimes muddy, always with loads of loose rock, and most are seldom visited. On Vancouver Island access is better and caves more numerous and better decorated, tho not as deep or long (tho they are trying to catch us :? ). In both places new discoveries are relatively commonplace.
