Vegan food

[Loki]

Now, if Bernie’s were to have a cake selection to rival a patisserie with the above mentioned avocado breakfast they’ve got my custom! I’m not veggie but fry ups are just so meh. A hearty bowl of porridge with dried fruit is way better caving fuel imo.
And a big plate of Dahl with rice after to soak up the beer.
Although that menu might be a little radical for ingleton. It would certainly have the nimbys of Kendal looking over the rims of thier bifocals

 

[Loki]

Oh yeah.

 

[Fjell]

Now, if Bernie’s were to have a cake selection to rival a patisserie with the above mentioned avocado breakfast they’ve got my custom! I’m not veggie but fry ups are just so meh. A hearty bowl of porridge with dried fruit is way better caving fuel imo.
And a big plate of Dahl with rice after to soak up the beer.
Although that menu might be a little radical for ingleton. It would certainly have the nimbys of Kendal looking over the rims of thier bifocals

Some better stuff than on the high street in Ingleton if you visit the actual shop:

Seasons Bakery - Artisanal Sourdough from Ingleton

Seasons Bakery is a family-run artisanal bakery and bakery shop in Ingleton, producing a wide range of Sourdough, Breads and Sweet Treats.

www.seasonsbakery.co.uk

I think you lack experience of Kendal. It is dreary because it is rammed with muesli eaters. It thinks it is a cycle town It doesn’t support many decent restaurants. It certainly does avocado:

BABA GANOUSH, Kendal - Restaurant Reviews, Photos & Phone Number - Tripadvisor

Baba Ganoush, Kendal: See 518 unbiased reviews of Baba Ganoush, rated 4.5 of 5 on Tripadvisor and ranked #9 of 146 restaurants in Kendal.

www.tripadvisor.co.uk

OK, there is a new place which is not bad:

Comida [food]

90-92 Highgate, Kendal, LA9 4HE 01539732082

www.comidafood.co.uk

 

[Ed]

The individual slice of vegan cake I bought was inedible; therefore to be on the safe side I shall refrain from purchasing vegan cake again.

I assume you'll will be refraining from meat pies after you get a bad one then

 

[cap n chris]

I assume you'll will be refraining from meat pies after you get a bad one then

Correct; establishments from which/where I get ill due to their product(s) are never revisited.

 

[Ed]

If I make one for myself I will do:
- Vegan sausages
- Scrambled tofu
- Mushrooms
- Tomatoes
I usually don't bother finding a substitute for bacon but sometimes add slices of avocado instead

Avocado is iffy for vegans as it can't be grown commercially without industrial scale bee keeping for pollution - the colonies then exploited for honey.

Also massive involved of the Mexican drug cartels moving in and forcibly taking over production

 

[Ed]

Correct; establishments from which/where I get ill due to their product(s) are never revisited.

You said you avoid vegan cake after 1 bad experience nit you'd avoid that establishment

 

[thehungrytroglobite]

A hearty bowl of porridge with dried fruit is way better caving fuel imo.

I agree, most the time I just eat this because I'm too lazy to cook anything else. But long-lasting energy is really my priority in pre-caving breakfasts, otherwise my blood sugar drops and I'll finish all my snacks before getting to the sump. Bringing proper food, rather than just chocolate bars has also been a game changer for me in longer trips

 

[thehungrytroglobite]

Avocado is iffy for vegans as it can't be grown commercially without industrial scale bee keeping for pollution - the colonies then exploited for honey.

Also massive involved of the Mexican drug cartels moving in and forcibly taking over production

Thanks for highlighting this, I didn't know that. There's always more to learn! I think one difficulty is that if I scrutinised all my food for how ethical it is, my plate would probably be empty because all of it will be found to be unethical in one way or another.
I would much prefer to convert a few fields around my village from sheep-grazing to community owned allotments where we can grow & share food together locally, but the Dales will never be that radical in my lifetime. Unfortunately I earn minimum wage and can't afford to shop at those expensive vegan fairtrade shops very often, but I do get ethical alternatives whenever I can afford to do so.

 

[cap n chris]

You said you avoid vegan cake after 1 bad experience nit you'd avoid that establishment

I didn't become unwell. Therefore I will probably continue visiting for the normal lovely cake and coffee. Unless you think I shouldn't. Easily persuaded, me.

 

[Babyhagrid]

To quote an unnamed person at a CHECC event once. "You would get less rescues if you served meat at breakfast"

 

[aricooperdavis]

Posh coffee shops? Give me Gregg's any day. Half the price and 4 times faster.

I've been avoiding Greggs because of their poor record on paying their staff minimum wage. I'd rather pay 50p extra for a slightly less disgusting pasty and know that the people that actually make it get paid fairly.

On a more "on topic" note, Greggs saw such success from their vegan range that they paid out huge staff bonuses!

 

[Pitlamp]

In no way is what follows "vegan bashing" (which I know some folk take great delight in) but some readers will remember when the Greggs vegan sausage roll was receiving considerable publicity. I was at Carnforth station and missed my train, so I went for a mooch round the town. Greggs was open so I thought I'd buy one to put me on, as tea time was going to be delatyed.

It was truly awful. 90% of it went in the bin. Real disappointment as I'd genuinely wanted to like it.

I'm making an effort to eat a greater proportion of vegetarian food these days, as I'm convinced it's healthier. But, for me at least, veganism is very much a step too far.

As indicated above; no disrespect to those who do reduce the variety in their diet solely to vegan options.

 

[andrewmcleod]

To quote an unnamed person at a CHECC event once. "You would get less rescues if you served meat at breakfast"

I refuse to accept advice from someone who doesn't know the difference from 'less' and 'fewer'
(plus you'd be better off serving a healthy dollop of porridge for the long-chain carbohydrates than meat which is high in protein but almost devoid of carbs... fat not being an ideal energy source for a day's exercise, and protein being even less ideal)

 

[andrewmcleod]

In no way is what follows "vegan bashing" (which I know some folk take great delight in) but some readers will remember when the Greggs vegan sausage roll was receiving considerable publicity. I was at Carnforth station and missed my train, so I went for a mooch round the town. Greggs was open so I thought I'd buy one to put me on, as tea time was going to be delatyed.

It was truly awful. 90% of it went in the bin. Real disappointment as I'd genuinely wanted to like it.

I'm making an effort to eat a greater proportion of vegetarian food these days, as I'm convinced it's healthier. But, for me at least, veganism is very much a step too far.

As indicated above; no disrespect to those who do reduce the variety in their diet solely to vegan options.

I had my first Greggs vegan sausage roll recently and loved it although I can see why a aficionado of fine pastry and delicately seasoned meats might not like it. I suspect you would have had similar opinions about the Greggs meat sausage roll... compared to many alternatives it is also pleasantly cheap

I had what I thought was a truly awful vegan cake somewhere once - I think possibly it was lacking in sufficient sweetness for the modern sugar-addicted sweet tooth. The piece de resistance was that it was adorned was a slab of sugar that for some bizarre reason they had decided to add a load of thyme to. For me this is the exception to the rule; most vegan cakes I've had have still been very tasty (as long as you add enough sugar, it's hard to go too wrong).

Chocolate brownies are one of those things that seem to be 100% amazing if done well even if gluten free and vegan.

I am now a furiously raider of the vegan fake meat product section of supermarkets albeit I am only vegetarian... I don't pretend to be cultured in any way however

 

[Cavematt]

I am not a vegan (I'm vegetarian), but I absolutely love the Greggs vegan sausage roll. Moreover, I'm happy to support a product made from Quorn, which is sustainable, healthy, and manufactured locally (Stokesley in North Yorkshire).

Last year, I tried scrambled tofu at a fancy café, just out of curiosity (I love scrambled egg but thought I'd be different) and again was pleasantly surprised. Whether tofu, made from imported soybeans is environmentally more sustainable than locally produced eggs, I'm not sure; But on a pure taste-test, and for culinary imagination and creativity, I was impressed and would happily have that again.

Anyway, I hope new Bernies do embrace some of the modern, creative vegan/vegetarian options, alongside the classics, not necessarily because I will choose them myself, but because it is clear that many younger cavers are embracing these choices. Getting the younger audience through the door will be critical to the future success of the business, and helping to build Bernies into the diverse and vibrant cavers' café that I would love it to become.

 

[topcat]

As always, wise words from Cavematt

 

[Pitlamp]

I think you’ve clarified the problem Matt; didn’t know it was made from tofu. I never did like that stuff; far too processed.

It was actually a vegetarian fried breakfast that first introduced me to hash browns, which are great. Now I’ve learned how to make them myself, which is so easy even I can manage it!

Agree with Andrew above about the smooth energy release characteristics of porridge due to long chain carbohydrate molecules first having to be digested. It’s the perfect start to an active day.

 

[kay]

I had to buy a vegan cake from M&S for my newly vegan ex-veggie son. It was really nice.

I'm wary of veganism because there seem to be too many processed foods attached to it, all the fake meats and even tofu. I'm happy to be put right. My son so far has dished up very good noodle dishes and salads, but I would get bored with those as an every day dish.

 

[Fulk]

Try pulses, kay.