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SHould Hidden Earth Stomp be a Disco or a Rock Band...

Disco
24 (51.1%)
Rock Band
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Offline Les W

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Hidden Earth Stomp!
« on: September 30, 2013, 10:11:22 pm »
Hi all,
OK I know I will regret this but I need some feedback on the stomp...  :-\

We have now had a disco for two years and people seem to enjoy it, especially the naked yoof   :bounce: 8)

So, to the point. I myself prefer a good rock band but others clearly do not.

I would like to know if the attendees would prefer I book:
a. A Rock Band (i.e. Rockaholic, from previous years)
or
b. A disco (i.e DJ Basher and DJ Eddy Sharp Pencil, who have performed the last two years)

Please vote above and add any comments here.
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Re: Hidden Earth Stomp!
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2013, 10:20:32 pm »

How about,

c. a fat bald git on a harmonica - nice one!

Seriously, something different.

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Re: Hidden Earth Stomp!
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2013, 11:07:46 pm »
Best bet is to mix it up a bit.. some years band, some years disco.
Also, vary the bands a bit more.

I play in a band (The Tetleys) and we've played at quite a few stomps and caving do's but we only play at the same one once every 2 or 3 years rather than every year - else they can get a bit repetitive. No issue with Rockaholic though, they are a great band and we've had them at some of our stomps.

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Re: Hidden Earth Stomp!
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2013, 11:32:00 pm »

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Re: Hidden Earth Stomp!
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2013, 12:23:39 am »
I saw the Tetley's at the DCRO bash.
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Re: Hidden Earth Stomp!
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2013, 07:34:08 am »
I prefer the disco as it's easier to play a wider taste of music (and requests as well) than whatever genre the band's playlist is which means it should cover all people's tastes to a point. I think the important thing though is to make sure where the venue allows the stomp is close to the main bar and also costs no extra on the whole weekend so more people will just get involved, even if it is just for a song or two.
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Re: Hidden Earth Stomp!
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2013, 09:46:47 am »
I've never really gone to either (not that I've stayed much at HE, done more day visits than anything) so maybe I shouldn't vote.

I reckon the suggestion by seamoose is a good one, a mixture to keep everyone happy.

Although of course, if you are fussy about the music on the night, you clearly haven't drank enough ale.  :beer2:

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Re: Hidden Earth Stomp!
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2013, 11:05:24 am »
I prefer a Rock band and agree with Seamoose, it's always good to rotate it. A little biased, but The Tetleys are a seasoned Stomp band. 8)

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Re: Hidden Earth Stomp!
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2013, 12:55:54 pm »

The Tetley's playing Leek would probably be a good move then.

Good trad R&B stomp band. Haven't had that for a few years have we?




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Re: Hidden Earth Stomp!
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2013, 02:51:20 pm »
So that has passed me by....HE2014 is back in Leek?

Great to hear if that is the case  :thumbsup:

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Re: Hidden Earth Stomp!
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2013, 05:14:07 pm »
Yes, Hidden Earth is to be in Leek for 2014
26th to 28th September...

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Re: Hidden Earth Stomp!
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2013, 07:35:45 pm »
Well done Les for getting it sorted.  :clap2: :clap2:


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Re: Hidden Earth Stomp!
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2013, 07:41:36 pm »
Yes, Hidden Earth is to be in Leek for 2014
26th to 28th September...

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I missed the earth moving for this momentous announcement (probably because I was driving home early on Sunday).  It is a welcome change to get back to the good old times when we knew where we were supposed to go a year ahead.  That is also the second fixed date for the rope test rig in my diary for next year!  (The other being the Forest of Dean event on 21 & 22 June.)  Next you will be telling me the date of the 2016 event.

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Re: Hidden Earth Stomp!
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2013, 08:13:10 pm »
Next you will be telling me the date of the 2016 event.

I will, and hopefully quite soon...  ;)
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Re: Hidden Earth Stomp!
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2013, 02:52:57 pm »
I was hoping for a call band. Like a good ol' fashion hodown. You know. Square dancing and such. That's what I pictured in my brain anyway haha. Square dances are tons of fun and since there is a caller you don't have to know the steps or how to dance to do it.
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Re: Hidden Earth Stomp!
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2013, 04:05:42 pm »
You want a bet - I've heard those callers and haven't got a clue what they're talking about. Plus their music is crap. American rubbish :P

Prefer proper live rock bands myself, but given my record of attendance at conference don't really feel my view should count for much!
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Re: Hidden Earth Stomp!
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2013, 05:12:24 pm »
Organising 100 pissed cavers?

Like THAT'S gonna happen...... :lol:
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Re: Hidden Earth Stomp!
« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2013, 05:22:58 pm »
Organising 100 pissed cavers?

Like THAT'S gonna happen...... :lol:
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Re: Hidden Earth Stomp!
« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2013, 05:34:13 pm »
Piece of piss. Put a hundred pints on the dance floor in the correct formation, job done.
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Re: Hidden Earth Stomp!
« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2013, 06:01:39 pm »
Organising 100 pissed cavers?

Like THAT'S gonna happen...... :lol:

Wendy seems to manage 300+ OK...

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Re: Hidden Earth Stomp!
« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2013, 07:43:31 pm »
some good points made, me being a person of maturer (is that a word) years prefer a good rock band. but the basher/esp scenario is ok. theproblem I think from some stomps at HE is the hall is to far away from the bar, and cavers being very tight do not it would seem to spend anymore wonger over the weekend apart from on the ale. so what ever happens the stomp needs to be close to the bar and free entry.
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Re: Hidden Earth Stomp!
« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2013, 09:37:40 pm »
Free stomp (ie. absorbed into the overall ticket price) sounds like the way forward as a few other posters have mentioned.

We now do that with Eldon stomps and it gets more people moving from the bar into the stomp room!

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Re: Hidden Earth Stomp!
« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2013, 02:16:20 am »
and cavers being very tight do not it would seem to spend anymore wonger
Especially by paying for something that upto/roughly ish 50% may not care for.

Honestly, I wouldn't  expect you to pay to run a "disco" that you may have no interest in attending.

That said I appreciate how lucky we are to have - what I consider - a fantastic disco run for free. I would never take that for granted.

If the demand for stomps is as high as the survey is reflecting, it should surely have its costs covered by those attending it.
Has it ever not broken even in the past?

I appreciate the figures may be miniscule, some may suggest only 50p or less  extra per ticket to absorb these costs, but id personally rather that went to Ghar Parau or something I supported, than a rock band  I have no interest in.


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Re: Hidden Earth Stomp!
« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2013, 11:23:51 am »
and cavers being very tight do not it would seem to spend anymore wonger
Especially by paying for something that upto/roughly ish 50% may not care for.

Honestly, I wouldn't  expect you to pay to run a "disco" that you may have no interest in attending.

That said I appreciate how lucky we are to have - what I consider - a fantastic disco run for free. I would never take that for granted.

If the demand for stomps is as high as the survey is reflecting, it should surely have its costs covered by those attending it.
Has it ever not broken even in the past?

I appreciate the figures may be miniscule, some may suggest only 50p or less  extra per ticket to absorb these costs, but id personally rather that went to Ghar Parau or something I supported, than a rock band  I have no interest in.

The price of Hidden Earth covers a lot of things that an individual may not participate in -  eg the two thirds of the lectures you can't get to because you're in a different lecture, ( never mind the lectures you're not interested in),  the Club stands in the Trade Hall,  the art, video salons and all the competitions (although prizes are sponsored, all other expenses are covered by the event as a whole). I don't mind covering the Stomp as well, even though I don't go to it.

The only things you pay for extra are T shirts and dinners, and food and drink, both of which are expensive enough for that to be fair, and camping, which doesn't cost as much, but saves an awful lot of money compared with B&B.

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Re: Hidden Earth Stomp!
« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2013, 06:27:25 pm »
The price of Hidden Earth covers a lot of things that an individual may not participate in -  eg ....the lectures

Correct me if I'm wrong but the lecturers don't get paid.

The ticket price for Hidden Earth covers the cost of the venue, not the presentations.

Hiring in a band is an additional cost, over and beyond the general cost of running Hidden Earth; therefore people attending the stomp with a band on stage should be the people who pay for the privilege of watching it (just like those attending the evening meal), not the general cavers who have no interest in such a thing.  Ten shirtless people flailing around in a huge hall with a live band shouldn't be subsidised by several hundred people in a bar having a nice social get-together.