Author Topic: DistoX2 - where can I get one?  (Read 9000 times)

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Re: DistoX2 - where can I get one?
« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2018, 02:17:00 pm »
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Nowadays I don't use a PDA and store all the data on the DistoX for download on the surface. 
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Re: DistoX2 - where can I get one?
« Reply #26 on: January 24, 2018, 03:05:52 pm »
Yeah we did the whole surveying in the dig then downloading on the surface and Topimo ended up destroying the data like 3 times :/


Plus 1 for a cheap android phone. Axims are getting harder to find and they're crap anyways. A cheap android ~£60 and dropping can take pictures too (of, for example, a survey point.

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Re: DistoX2 - where can I get one?
« Reply #27 on: January 24, 2018, 09:24:06 pm »
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Nowadays I don't use a PDA and store all the data on the DistoX for download on the surface. 
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A recipe for disaster...

In the wrong hands, perhaps...
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Re: DistoX2 - where can I get one?
« Reply #28 on: January 25, 2018, 09:26:46 pm »
Nowadays I don't use a PDA and store all the data on the DistoX for download on the surface. 

I can see how doing this may be a quicker option in a short length of straight forward passage but as we know caves are rarely straight forward. Even if you are only doing a centreline how do you deal with branches and continuations etc and if you are doing a full survey then what about cross sections and other detail.

Secondly Disto's do cock up from time, without the PDA/phone to display the data you almost certainly will miss some of these bad readings which may not be obvious back at base. Surely sketching as you go using your prefered data capture software watching your shots and splays come in must be easier than trying to sort all that information back at base or am I missing something. I would be very interested in how you deal with this.

One of the main advantages of proper paperless surveying is the ability to reduce or even remove errors and blunders which creep in using traditional surveying methods. Alright nothing is perfect mainly because people are involved but the Disto and PDA combo used correctly is a huge improvement and as we have found once you are up to speed it is also very quick.


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Re: DistoX2 - where can I get one?
« Reply #29 on: January 26, 2018, 08:56:22 am »
Nowadays I don't use a PDA and store all the data on the DistoX for download on the surface. 

I can see how doing this may be a quicker option in a short length of straight forward passage but as we know caves are rarely straight forward. Even if you are only doing a centreline how do you deal with branches and continuations etc and if you are doing a full survey then what about cross sections and other detail.

I use the strategy that was developed for underwater surveying using the DistoX in a pressure resistant housing.  It wasn't practical to download the data on the fly underwater.  Junctions and other points of interest can be marked in memory by doing pairs of shots in the same direction as a flag.  I generally carry a waterproof notebook or divers' slate if I need to record more detail.  It works for our purposes - except when you face running out of DistoX memory.  I'd also add that where we are surveying is frequently not very nice and/or challenging to get to.

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April 2020 - Looking for a distoX2 modified
« Reply #30 on: April 27, 2020, 01:05:32 am »
As the thread goes, does anyone happen to have one laying around?

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Re: April 2020 - Looking for a distoX2 modified
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Re: DistoX2 - where can I get one?
« Reply #32 on: April 27, 2020, 08:51:43 am »
If you manage to get a board I'll happily build the unit for you. I also have a couple of batteries available.

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Re: DistoX2 - where can I get one?
« Reply #33 on: April 27, 2020, 05:03:51 pm »
It anyone else in the UK wants one and that link that Kenilworth posted is able to send up us boards I would also be keen to get one... (And one of Ben's batteries).


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Re: DistoX2 - where can I get one?
« Reply #34 on: April 27, 2020, 09:26:38 pm »
Belatedly reading the recent CREG Journal (No. 109 March 2020) I noticed a reference in the "We Hear" round up of news by Mike Bedford to the "Caveatron".  The device claims to be "a cave survey tool, recording conventional distance, azimuth and inclination measurements".  I have not read into it but Mike reports it is an open-source project.  Details can be found at https://github.com/Caveatron/caveatron and also at https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/caveatron-discuss.  Happy reading.

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Re: DistoX2 - where can I get one?
« Reply #35 on: April 29, 2020, 09:57:29 am »
Administrator Comment I've split the discussion on the caveatron device to a new thread here, as requested. https://ukcaving.com/board/index.php?topic=26392.msg322312#msg322312

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Re: DistoX2 - where can I get one?
« Reply #36 on: May 18, 2020, 11:24:12 am »
Hey,

Thought it might be useful to let people know that I have bought some boards off the guy in Kenilworth's link: http://forums.caves.org/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=18121

I did a bit of digging and mutual contact finding to attempt to verify him and was satisfied that he is a real person and is producing the boards. I had the boards posted to someone in the US who will bring them back later so I don't actually know if they work yet :D but they have been delivered and from photos they look the part and includes all the things that you would expect (the board itself, non-mag screws, non-mag battery etc.). I will update as soon as I've converted a disto with them (hopefully in a month or two).

He is charging $370 for the kit. This includes the non-mag batteries which is some consolation but is still a fair amount more than it cost before, and this is before you get import fees and VAT if they are posted to the UK. I had a sort of grant to purchase them and someone in the US to post them to so it was affordable for me but I imagine this might be too much for a lot of people.

I think he was working off a stockpile of the bluetooth chips but he also seems to think he's found a new supplier so it may be a (pricey) option going into the future.

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Re: DistoX2 - where can I get one?
« Reply #37 on: May 18, 2020, 01:01:29 pm »
I wonder if one can split the Caveatron so one just uses the laser pointer / magnetic accelerometer or gryo part to replace the DistoX.  I am now aware of two people building Caveatrons so perhaps with a bit of experience, we might see a valid alternative to the DistoX, never mind the 3D part.  The price should be competative or better given no LIDAR.

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Re: DistoX2 - where can I get one?
« Reply #38 on: May 18, 2020, 01:17:32 pm »
Would that be better in the caveatron discussion?

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Re: DistoX2 - where can I get one?
« Reply #39 on: May 18, 2020, 04:03:50 pm »
Would that be better in the caveatron discussion?
I accept the point but wanted to ensure people were aware of a potential alternative.  Are you volunteering?   

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Re: DistoX2 - where can I get one?
« Reply #40 on: May 18, 2020, 04:15:57 pm »
Know nothing about either, but yes you're right to post it here. (From your message I wasn't sure if you'd missed the split).

 

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