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Re: Drought....
« Reply #25 on: July 09, 2018, 09:50:20 am »
Boat levels at Nantymwyn?

They blocked.
Upper has a fall a short distance in, portal has been dug and drained the past so dry spell make no difference.

Lower is very solidly blocked, portal and higher. People have descended Coaling Shaft in the past and got nowhere.

Mine opportunities are there though. Upper Dinas, Cwmorthin, and possibly a few around Ceredigion. This weekend water was down about 3 feet in Taylors Incline at Goginan, Brynyrafr as mentioned, and some others.
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Re: Drought....
« Reply #26 on: July 09, 2018, 06:57:50 pm »
Plenty of water down here last night.

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Given the dry weather would the Font in Bogg Hall and Guinevere's Slit repay another look?

Bog hall has not been checked but as Adrian was down close to 20m in The Font's shaft its unpromising. Guineveres and The Well are sumped with a significant flow into the downstream end of Guineveres.
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Re: Drought....
« Reply #27 on: July 12, 2018, 05:24:32 pm »
My default is to curse the rain, but not today.
Finally it's raining and I'm sat drinking a brew with the windows open watching and listening to it fall. The world smells wonderful right now :)

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Re: Drought....
« Reply #28 on: July 12, 2018, 07:02:29 pm »
Lal bit of rain at Clapham this aft - only maybe 2 - 3 mm though. Just enough to wet the plants and no effect on streams.

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Re: Drought....
« Reply #29 on: July 12, 2018, 07:11:48 pm »
Mind you, the graphics on here currently suggest there might be more yet to come for Ingleborough:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/0/6941089

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Re: Drought....
« Reply #30 on: July 12, 2018, 07:12:58 pm »
Not even enough to dampen the tarmac at Austwick! So very local, but has the rain smell though  :shrug:

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Re: Drought....
« Reply #31 on: July 12, 2018, 08:01:35 pm »
Some bright spark I went on a trip with said it's the smell of ozone. I remarked on the difference of smell between a cave and the outside summery weather, and they mentioned it was the ozone.

Never bothered to look it up till you prompted me :)

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Re: Drought....
« Reply #32 on: July 12, 2018, 09:13:14 pm »
Many thanks alastairgott

I had always wondered what the smell was. It was incredibly strong earlier tonight - now I know!

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Re: Drought....
« Reply #33 on: July 12, 2018, 09:41:18 pm »
Much as I'm getting deeply worried about the lack of grazing with the ongoing drying, possible shortage of fodder come winter if there can't be later cuts of silage and haylage, and standpipes (Severn Trent have been round marking all the water points with blue this week :thumbsdown:), there are also opportunities.

Parch marks and verdant spots are now very much apparent, so in areas where you suspect there might be something, you can look for the different bits for pointers on possible sub-surface features.
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« Reply #35 on: July 12, 2018, 10:20:02 pm »
Must have been that bright spark ^

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Re: Drought....
« Reply #37 on: July 12, 2018, 11:26:45 pm »
I will probably take a look this weekend, its a definite opportunity as there has only been access for a few years after a run in the engine shaft gave access to the main stope with a way down.

A report from Aber today describes Nant-y-Moch as "virtually empty".

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Re: Drought....
« Reply #38 on: July 13, 2018, 01:39:40 pm »
It was definately rather wet in Skipton this morning. I certainly god rather wet on the cycle in
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Re: Drought....
« Reply #39 on: July 13, 2018, 07:57:02 pm »
Pouring down quite heavily in the White Peak right now.
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Re: Drought....
« Reply #40 on: July 22, 2018, 10:08:34 pm »
Well we've had some rain, however it's been light and the ground's just soaked it up.  Still oh so dry...

Went down Swinsto on Saturday - and it was quiet, well apart from the chatter and laughter  :), no waterfalls cascading down the pitches, no being doused with icy water - marvellous if a bit unusual  :blink:

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Re: Drought....
« Reply #41 on: July 22, 2018, 10:50:39 pm »
Trip into OFD1 today was totally weird. Never seen the place so dry. The pots in the streamway had water levels well below the scaffold bridges and very still and clear that revealed that one is a helluva lot deeper than we thought, possibly 20 feet ish?
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Re: Drought....
« Reply #42 on: July 22, 2018, 11:13:54 pm »
In Derbyshire, P8 sump 1 still wet to the roof :( but quite low.

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Re: Drought....
« Reply #43 on: July 23, 2018, 12:14:23 am »
A couple of us had a trip round the back-end of Speedwell just over a week ago - Whirlpool Passage, Leviathan through to Titan, then back to the main streamway and then the Bathing Pool and finally upstream to Main Rising. Much of the Far Canal was dry, and even at Pit Props the water was only knee-deep. Whirlpool Rising was about 50-60cm below floor level. The crawl through to FSE was low, though still stinky in Cow Arse Worms pool. Titan had a little water running down the wall, but not much. The Bathing Pool was probably about a metre below normal level, though I'm sure that Secret Sump was still full.

However - when we got to Cliff Passage, water was still flowing happily over the lip into the main stream. So how come Cliff Cavern water is still flowing when nothing else is? Anyone have any ideas? Clay wayboards most likely, but where is the water coming from? Eldon Hill maybe?

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Re: Drought....
« Reply #44 on: July 23, 2018, 01:53:20 pm »
the bogs have shrunk about an inch id give it a while of rainfall before we get any meaningful flow

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Re: Drought....
« Reply #45 on: July 23, 2018, 01:57:14 pm »
2xw, where can I find Christmas aven?

I went up a muddy slope from sump 1 and then realised I went up in the wrong place when I traversed across and found some dig buckets and a handline going back down to the streamway.

From the Buckets and Top of the handline, where do you go?

I guess we got to stalagmite grotto at the top?

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Re: Drought....
« Reply #46 on: July 23, 2018, 02:04:20 pm »
2xw, where can I find Christmas aven?

I went up a muddy slope from sump 1 and then realised I went up in the wrong place when I traversed across and found some dig buckets and a handline going back down to the streamway.

From the Buckets and Top of the handline, where do you go?

I guess we got to stalagmite grotto at the top?

Alastair - you could have carried the kibbles through the crawl for us!

From where the buckets are you continue on at the low end of the aven at the top of the slope through a crawling passage for a short while.

See attached image showing the dig (X) and where you reached (O) above the handline (l).

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Re: Drought....
« Reply #47 on: July 23, 2018, 03:30:26 pm »
I'm going to have to go back and try again...

Probably go with you guys then I don't get lost in Derbyshire.

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Re: Drought....
« Reply #48 on: July 23, 2018, 03:59:59 pm »
I'm going to have to go back and try again...

Probably go with you guys then I don't get lost in Derbyshire.

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Re: Drought....
« Reply #49 on: July 23, 2018, 05:12:37 pm »
I'm going to have to go back and try again...

Probably go with you guys then I don't get lost in Derbyshire.

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