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Offline Bob Mehew

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Re: The new BCA newsletter
« Reply #25 on: July 13, 2019, 09:01:07 pm »
BCA did become joint sponsors of Speleology with BCRA but it eventually was dropped because we could not get material for the magazine.  And that was despite employing an editor.

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Re: The new BCA newsletter
« Reply #26 on: July 13, 2019, 10:42:38 pm »
Perhaps those criticising the content of publications, whether they be the BCA newsletter or Descent magazine, ought to write and submit a few articles for said publications. Come on Mr Sparrow, how about a series of articles about SRT.

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Re: The new BCA newsletter
« Reply #27 on: July 14, 2019, 05:20:19 am »
Whilst I think a publication like Andy describes would be good, The BCA newsletter isn’t the right place for it. I enjoyed the new format of the newsletter and found the content interesting, even as a young person who Andy presumes wouldn’t be interested on my behalf.

I unfortunately don’t subscribe to descent - as I live abroad (but totally would if an online subscription was available - please please please look into this!). Can I ask what the purpose of publishing surveys would be when there are perfectly good guide books all over the place, and with plenty of surveys available online through cavemaps.

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Re: The new BCA newsletter
« Reply #28 on: July 14, 2019, 08:14:43 am »
I see no reason why Descent and the BCA Newsletter can't  co-exist. Both are very good.

One issue with getting material for publications is that many cavers, rightly, give priority to their own clubs' journals. So trying to have global coverage in a single megapublication instead would never be entirely successful. It would lead to loss of the sort of detail for which club journals offer rich pickings.

Whilst I'm on. Andy S wrote: "Descent magazine does not commission articles but relies entirely on what is contributed." That's just not true; I've certainly been directly asked to write stuff for Descent from time to time. Quite apart from this, the regional correspondents are often proactive.

I think the wish list Andy S suggests is very useful. However, at least some of the items are well covered elsewhere already and would it all be of interest to cavers who mainly focus on a single caving region of the UK?

This question is also why I've been less keen on attending the annual BCA conference in recent years; the content is just so disparate I find there's fewer features which interest me personally. I'm not denigrating the conference here; it's a marvellous event and the volunteers which make it happen deserve nothing but praise. It's only a personal reflection, mainly because my own interests withing caving are fairly specialised. But others clearly think similarly, which was why we held the first Northern Explorers Forum recently, which was excellent. For the same reason, I think local caving publications are probably still better than a full on BCA "journal".

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Re: The new BCA newsletter
« Reply #29 on: July 14, 2019, 01:27:24 pm »
...a gentle reminder that the BCA is staffed by volunteers, and you are essentially asking them to do more work...

I would like to envisage the BCA as consisting of its 6000 or so members, not the oppressed "staff" of some shady, enterprise controlled at the whim of social media that this chastening message brings to mind. How naive can I must be to think that some more of the members might be encouraged to cooperate (even without some official title)?

Meanwhile the Cambrian Caving Council has produced its latest newsletter [ http://www.cambriancavingcouncil.org.uk/pdf/newsletters/2019/July2019.pdf ] - an entirely voluntary mix of news, comment, and features, albeit form too small a pool of the talent available.


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Re: The new BCA newsletter
« Reply #30 on: July 14, 2019, 10:19:09 pm »
How naive can I must be to think that some more of the members might be encouraged to cooperate (even without some official title)?

Fairly. The BCA can barely fill its officer positions. Offers of assistance are hardly being hurled at the council. The regional councils suck up most of the volunteer effort I suspect (which is not unreasonable as there is lots to be done).

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Re: The new BCA newsletter
« Reply #31 on: July 14, 2019, 10:31:31 pm »
Having read this thread very dutifully - from the Original Posters sorry rant, through his later escalation and onto the opposite sides Rising To The Bait - I have to say that I eventually lost the will to live. As a UK caving thread Its entirely focussed on politics - there is nothing useful for an active caver, there are no decent surveys and there arn’t even any pictures. Mind you...I did appreciate the OP mentioning “Pissed Students” as its reminded me there are four bottles of Theakstons in the back of the car.
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