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Offline Badlad

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Message from Yorkshire Dales NPA
« on: May 11, 2020, 09:58:58 pm »
For those who live in or intend to visit the dales.  The Yorkshire Dales National Park Authority asks everyone to show respect - good advice I reckon.  See this link to read in full.

https://www.yorkshiredales.org.uk/the-yorkshire-dales-national-park-authority-asks-everyone-to-show-respect
« Last Edit: May 11, 2020, 10:58:46 pm by Badlad »

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Re: Message from Yorkshire Dales NPA
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2020, 10:39:14 pm »
You can delete the fbclid etc FB link...

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Re: Message from Yorkshire Dales NPA
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2020, 10:59:26 pm »
You can delete the fbclid etc FB link...

Good to know.  Cheers

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Re: Message from Yorkshire Dales NPA
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2020, 06:19:32 am »
It's a good message but I think it doesn't stand a chance of getting through. This weekend will be carnage for the Dales and the Lakes sadly.
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Re: Message from Yorkshire Dales NPA
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2020, 07:18:36 am »
They might change their minds if it's more widely known that Lakes has one of highest infection rates in country ...

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Re: Message from Yorkshire Dales NPA
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2020, 07:22:21 am »
I hope they do change their minds but I'm not optimistic! It's going to be a riot especially as wales and scotland are closed. People have been going to the Dales on day trips throughout all this so this weekend will be huge. You can't trust everyone to do the right thing, the weekend before lockdown we were told no essential travel and Snowdonia had one of its busiest days ever.
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Re: Message from Yorkshire Dales NPA
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2020, 08:17:33 am »
Dales has a massive population within a short drive (as does the Peak), so previous advice that they could drive, provided walk was longer, means they were within the letter of the law (if not the spirit).

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Re: Message from Yorkshire Dales NPA
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2020, 08:24:12 am »
I know but just because something is legal doesn't mean it is right. I'm not getting involved in that debate as it's pointless: everyone will do what they think is best. I was just making the prediction that this weekend will be very very busy. Perhaps I'm too pessimistic though.,
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Re: Message from Yorkshire Dales NPA
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2020, 08:28:49 am »
On the NP website is this thought, which I agree with. Living in the park as we do is a privilege that many cannot contemplate. It is not acceptable for the few thousand of us that live here to exclude the millions in cities. We will just have to manage things the best we can. I don’t believe the objective risk is great.

“As a Dales woman, I would ask everyone in the National Park, and those visiting, to recognize their interrelationships.
If those in the National Park need hospitalization, they will travel to Leeds or Bradford. Therefore let us share our space with them”


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Re: Message from Yorkshire Dales NPA
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2020, 08:41:23 am »
Speleotron, I was agreeing with you.

Fjell, that's about the first unselfish thing I've seen posted about the crisis. Hopefully many will decide not to go, due to the expected overcrowding.
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Re: Message from Yorkshire Dales NPA
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2020, 08:42:12 am »
I was agreeing with you as well! I'm not very good at forums. S'all Goodman. 
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Re: Message from Yorkshire Dales NPA
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2020, 08:54:00 am »
Nah, sometimes impossible to decipher intention of the written word - part of the beauty & frustration of the English language!

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Re: Message from Yorkshire Dales NPA
« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2020, 09:04:53 am »
They might change their minds if it's more widely known that Lakes has one of highest infection rates in country ...
Not in the Park. It’s mainly in Barrow and Kendal and particularly care homes. The problem is the vast majority of visitors are not normally there to go hill walking. If they keep all the pubs and cafes closed and Beatrix Potter is off limits, the numbers will not be great after an initial splurge. They should open the walking car parks.

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Re: Message from Yorkshire Dales NPA
« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2020, 09:05:12 am »
I agree with all of you.  It’s difficult to get tone in a text isn’t it. 
It could be too early but the day has to come some time and Wednesday and the weekend is it.  If I lived in Leeds and Bradford which I used to, I would be very keen to come up and enjoy the countryside again. I’m staying out of the way to let these people enjoy themselves.  I suppose this sounds patronising if you read it with the wrong tone of voice.  So please don’t think it’s patronising. 
Most people will keep social distancing I’m sure.  Most people on this site will know the honeypots and avoid them.
  I practice social distancing, if you don’t then you can still respect my views and stay clear of me without compromising your own. 
Pessimism is just though, because I have already witnessed a family disgusted that the waterfall walk was closed yesterday. 
This is my first forum and like speleotron I find people take some of my posts the wrong way.  So don’t be offended by this post.

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Re: Message from Yorkshire Dales NPA
« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2020, 09:10:31 am »
Although I predict mayhem when they open the garden centre in Ambleside. People will be stocking up on full sized flashing reindeer for Xmas, just in case.

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Re: Message from Yorkshire Dales NPA
« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2020, 09:13:12 am »
The B and Q near me has just re-opened and it is rammed. Huge lines of people stood next to each other in the carpark.
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Re: Message from Yorkshire Dales NPA
« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2020, 09:30:20 am »
There is bound to be a bit of a surge when people have been couped up for weeks.  I'd be first in the car on Wednesday if I was in the city.

The National Parks were established to provide recreational opportunities for the public.  Especially those living in cities and built up areas.  They are not just there for those of us who live within them.  For a start many businesses rely on the visitors for their income.  I despair at the attitude shown by some towards visiting folk (locally not on this forum).  Who's going to keep the rural economy going once we return to normal, even the new normal.  So many of us who live here were once visitors too.

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Re: Message from Yorkshire Dales NPA
« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2020, 09:38:55 am »
It's a local park for local people... :tease:

I guess opening on Wednesday means the peak will be spread a bit, rather than all on the weekend, & if they don't go to the Lakes, then the Dales will be worse.

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Re: Message from Yorkshire Dales NPA
« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2020, 10:12:32 am »
I don't recognise a weekend anymore, all the days have blended into one enormous weekend  :blink: :blink: :blink:
So hopefully people will spread out the footfall

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Re: Message from Yorkshire Dales NPA
« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2020, 10:31:08 am »
Although I predict mayhem when they open the garden centre in Ambleside. People will be stocking up on full sized flashing reindeer for Xmas, just in case.

It'll be OK. Hayes Garden world doesn't put up its displays until just before Christmas i.e. August.
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Re: Message from Yorkshire Dales NPA
« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2020, 10:37:43 am »
It's easy to avoid the Dales' fleshpots. Mallerstang, Wild Boar Fell and the Orton Fells are calling. They will be empty as usual.
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Re: Message from Yorkshire Dales NPA
« Reply #21 on: May 12, 2020, 10:53:13 am »
Surface prospecting might be the order of the day.  There are some big gaps in drainage to be explored in the dales away from the 3 counties etc.  And it’s dry too. 
The bogs of lovely seat and to the the east of it spring to mind. 

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Re: Message from Yorkshire Dales NPA
« Reply #22 on: May 12, 2020, 11:03:54 am »
I have very mixed feeling on this, on the one hand I fully understand the feelings of those living in National Parks and their unease at this new advice.

On the other hand I have been fighting my natural urges to jump in the car and head for the hills, especially when things get a bit on top of me, reminding myself that I must be a good chap and wait until the official advice tells me this is OK - and that I have done, thinking how good it will feel to be free to go back to the freedom of the areas I love to visit.

Well now it seems that moment has come - except every man and his dog is saying, directly or indirectly, that I would be foolish/inconsiderate/selfish to take advantage of it. They may well be right and on balance I'll probably leave it a bit longer. However it's a strange shift to be no longer restricted by official policy but now by popular opinion and social pressure...

 

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