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Info required on Starvehouse Mine and Bennet Part.
« on: July 23, 2020, 08:59:16 pm »
Info required on starvehouse mine and bennet part.
« Last Edit: July 24, 2020, 12:09:11 pm by paul, Reason: Updated title to make it more specific. »

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Re: Info
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2020, 09:34:30 pm »
They're in Bradwell liberty, aren't they? If so, Chris Heathcote's article  will summarise what's known of the history: https://pdmhs.co.uk/MiningHistory/Bulletin%2017-5%20-%20A%20History%20and%20Gazetteer%20of%20the%20Lead%20Mines%20within%20Bradwell%20Liberty.pdf
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Re: Info
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2020, 10:59:19 am »
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Re: Info required on Starvehouse Mine and Bennet Part.
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2020, 09:31:17 am »
See also my article in the Summer 2015 issue of The Derbyshire Caver re Geoff Workman's exploration of Starvehouse Mine in the 1960s - https://thedca.org.uk/publications/newsletters/send/3-derbyshire-caver/11-derbyshire-caver-137

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Re: Info required on Starvehouse Mine and Bennet Part.
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2020, 02:10:10 pm »
Thanks for your help guys.
It's been great to read through the articles.
However in the articles there are no mentions of the cart gate that ran from slauterhouse mine to hazard mine that is mentioned in the barmsters book.
It's the cart gate info I'm after.

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Re: Info required on Starvehouse Mine and Bennet Part.
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2020, 07:14:39 pm »
Would that be one that went through Wham Mine first? I have a feeling the tale by Steve Thompson on recovering the wagon mentioned something about cartgates, but I cannot find it now.

On the few trips I've been down Hazard, I was quite surprised to see that it didn't really correspond with the (admittedly diagrammatic|) section of the mine I'd seen, and the shaft and accessible passages seemed 'a bit wrong'. However, when we surveyed it, it seems that the shaft area is actually on a short N-S fault, as well as the main E-W one - as well as vertically! There's a really obviously displaced bedding about 60m down the shaft with about a metre difference between the two sides (image attached, which is a still from a GoPro video shot by Jim L) - but I didn't noticed any obvious cartgates heading off westwards around the depths they should exist at - though this area would be worth looking at further. All the veins seemed backfilled for much of the shaft depth on the west side. Also it seems the climbing shaft, now buried at surface, dropped into the North Vein, whilst the engine shaft was on the South Vein, and both ended up at different destinations westwards.

All the accessible stuff I saw seemed to go east, after negotiating the wrinkle where the shaft is. The passage with the wooden wagon in is (I think) a very large crosscut between the veins as it's heading almost north. The stope above the wagon passage may have a western continuation but I didn't get off the rope. Jim probably has more info on this than I do.

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Re: Info required on Starvehouse Mine and Bennet Part.
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2020, 07:32:16 pm »
We are still surveying but will make it  Available as soon as possible, getting there slowly! It will be great to see how it fits in, Jim L

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Re: Info required on Starvehouse Mine and Bennet Part.
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2020, 07:34:00 pm »
Yes, I should point out that it was only the shaft area that I surveyed with Wayne - Jim's done a lot more ;)

The other weird thing is that the shaft doesn't go down as far as it should - but it may have been T Pot that told me about Jack Eidson dropping a monster boulder down the shaft to block it, but it wasn't quite big enough and went right to the bottom. It's possible that it ripped out any false floors that may have led into darker areas that can't be seen from the shaft rope. It would certainly explain the slope of deads that forms the current shaft base. But the shaft is currently only 78m deep now, and it went much further than that according to the section and history.

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Re: Info required on Starvehouse Mine and Bennet Part.
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2020, 08:51:05 pm »
Would that be one that went through Wham Mine first? I have a feeling the tale by Steve Thompson on recovering the wagon mentioned something about cartgates, but I cannot find it now.
Just dug my copy of SUSS Journal vol.1 no.5 out and Steve did mention it, by his reckoning from the old records the big cartgate was about 70ft below the workings they recovered the wagon from. I've got a feeling I scanned said article a few years ago, I'll have a look for it. If not, I can scan from my hard copy.

Edit - found it , attached.
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