Rigging a Fixed Scaffold bar
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wellyjen
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I'd always have it backed up to something if at all possible. As much to provide a loop easy to clip in to protect people on approach than as safety thing if the scaff pole failed. Wrap a short sling round it enough times to get the knot at a satisfactory height. Depends what if anything there is for people to stand on in the shaft where that is. Then, krab in to the ends of the sling and knot in to that. You can tie the climbing rope directly round he scaff bar if it is removable, like at the top of Oxlow, or Eyam Dale House. Nice big radius around the tube. If the tube is fixed, this makes judging how much rope to leave to go to a backup tricky and leads to time wasted adjusting lengths. Slings are cheap, so take one with you. The sling wound round the tube will also keep it in position. There may be parts of the tube that if the suspension point slides along will give a rope rub lower down.
Just what I do.
Jen
Just what I do.
Jen
cavemanmike
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Sling every time
Tseralo
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I prefer to tie a bowline with a long tail that I can backup to another thing or the same scaff bar if there isn't anything else IE JH. Some of our members seem to dislike this as its a bit more faff to remove when its blowing a gale and prefer a sling and crab. Personally I would rather reduce the amount of failure points in the system.
Tseralo
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It?s the same reason we teach people to backup their fig 8 with a stopper in climbing.MarkS said:
In reality if the first knot is tied correctly it?s not needed but people talking to you, being a bit excited to get underground or just keen to get out of the wind can distract people. Sadly this has killed people climbing including a friend of a friend quite recently.
nearlywhite
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pwhole said:I actually did manage to tie a re-threaded figure-9 one night when I was bored, so it is possible. But boring
I use them fairly often. And would use it in this situation
Rethreading a bunny ears when someone you don't like is derigging is more of a challenge.
A_Northerner
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PeteHall said:nearlywhite said:
As long as it's not your rope, otherwise they might be tempted to just cut it off
I recall a derigging trip down Oxlow with Rostam in my first year where I had to de-rig a re-threaded figure of eight bunny ears in new 9mm rope that had just been weighted by Rostam - it was DCC rope as well so not ours to cut! After 30-45 minutes I finally got it undone, and he then revealed to me that he hadn't brought any tackle bags.
We're not known for treating novices kindly in SUSS...
nearlywhite
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A_Northerner said:
it had been weighted by 6 other people... cheeky sod. Also for the record I had assumed the tackle sacks were hung up as they'd used them... nope they'd taken them out. I do think of that trip most times I'm on that hillside.
