Brexit

[Fjell]

Devonport probably, which is where the attack boats live.

Scotland is going to make itself extremely unpopular if it dismantles half of Europe’s nuclear deterrence on a whim. A lot of things go unsaid in public.

This is what actually goes through leaders minds:

https://www.army.mod.uk/deployments/baltics/

[al]

Scotland is going to make itself extremely unpopular if it dismantles half of Europe’s nuclear deterrence on a whim.

Surely the whole of this topic (Brexit) is about a whim?

[Fjell]

Being in the EU is trivial compared to being in NATO. And Trump seriously put the willies up European leaders. They might have tried much much harder to keep the UK in the EU if he had been in power then. There is serious regret now and lots of finger pointing.

Even the deeply unaware seem to have noticed something is amiss:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/28/uk-quietly-shifts-away-from-promise-of-deep-foreign-and-security-links-with-eu

[al]

Being in the EU is trivial compared to being in NATO. And Trump seriously put the willies up European leaders. They might have tried much much harder to keep the UK in the EU if he had been in power then. There is serious regret now and lots of finger pointing.

Even the deeply unaware seem to have noticed something is amiss:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/28/uk-quietly-shifts-away-from-promise-of-deep-foreign-and-security-links-with-eu

What were you expecting? Due diligence?

[andrewmc]

If I was pregnant (which is of course pretty unlikely), I would seriously consider giving birth in Northern Ireland, allowing any progeny to claim Irish and therefore EU citizenship...

[pwhole]

Michael Parkinson's dad famously drove his labouring wife back over the Yorkshire border from somewhere else to give birth, just in case his son happened to be good at cricket. I'm not even sure if he knew it was a son in those days, so that's double-cautious

[al]

There used to be lots of similar tales - especially around Earby and Bar'lick, where the nearest maternity hospital used to be in Colne, on the other county.

[RobinGriffiths]

Michael Parkinson's dad famously drove his labouring wife back over the Yorkshire border from somewhere else to give birth, just in case his son happened to be good at cricket. I'm not even sure if he knew it was a son in those days, so that's double-cautious

Didn't make him immune to Emu attacks though did it?

[RobinGriffiths]

Devonport probably, which is where the attack boats live.

Looks like you may be right about that. Appears that there are already several nuclear subs there awaiting decomission.

[mikem]

Didn't make him immune to Emu attacks though did it?

He may have been called Hull, but he was from Kent

[RobinGriffiths]

TBF Rod Hull was bloody good.

[tony from suffolk]

Didn't make him immune to Emu attacks though did it?

He may have been called Hull, but he was from Kent

Surprising fact no. 2,642...I nearly bought Rod Hull's house in Kent. Somewhere near Lenham I recall, next to a cricket pitch. It was thatched, and that finally put me off at the time. Bit daft in retrospect - we've been living in a thatched cottage for the last 25 years.

[pwhole]

Have you ever had to adjust your TV aerial though?

[Ian Ball]

Harsh.

I remember a review of the Scottish independance white paper suggestig alternative sites for the nuclear fleet, it was not a long list. I remember Fowey being on there as a deep water port.

[aardgoose]

Just to complicate things, there are also the Z berths which may be controversial, local residents are provided with iodine tablets in case of radiation leaks from a sub. A number are scattered around Scotland, eg Loch Ewe.

http://www.ports.org.uk/port.asp?id=960

[Pegasus]

TBF Rod Hull was bloody good.

I shouldn't be laughing...but I am 

[pwhole]

The definition of irony? I don't know whether to be happy or upset. I hope we'll see less of him, so in that respect I guess it's good news:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/31/stanley-johnson-confirms-application-for-french-passport-on-eve-of-brexit

[crickleymal]

Oddly enough he is a remainer according to the stuff I read today.

[Wolfo]

 Bye, Brits 

[Fjell]

Oddly enough he is a remainer according to the stuff I read today.

Bowis is a raging Europhile. Frost, the UK’s chief negotiator in 2020, has a degree in Medieval French and was ambassador to places like Denmark. They are united in a belief that the EU is cocking it all up the way they are going. They are as likely to be right as anyone else, and are a lot less dim than the average journalist (Frost in particular).

My view is that this was largely a vote against a disinterested elite in London.

We are now Switzerland about 30 years ago and I think the EU is contemplating losing the will to live on that front.

[RobinGriffiths]

Not worth a thread of it's own, so dumping it here.

The Farage Garage in Kent does not have a sinkhole!

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jan/02/authorities-investigate-possible-sinkhole-in-kent-lorry-park

[Brains]

Not worth a thread of it's own, so dumping it here.

The Farage Garage in Kent does not have a sinkhole!

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jan/02/authorities-investigate-possible-sinkhole-in-kent-lorry-park

https://ukcaving.com/board/index.php?topic=27375.0
 

[RobinGriffiths]

Flipping heck. Lorry sandwich-gate in the Daily Mail! Dial turned up to 11, you'd think by the Comments on the website that they weren't happy that Brexit 'is done'. Don't think they'll be happy until Joan of Arc is resurrected and burnt again.

[Fjell]

A really nice French caver I once knew told me in all seriousness that the reason that the French don’t like the English was because of Jeanne d’Arc.

The Greta Thunberg of her day.

[mikem]

She was quite late in the Hundred Years War - we'd been interfering in each others governance (due to all the kings of Europe being related) long before that.