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Offline Pitlamp

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Dentures and diving; advice sought
« on: October 10, 2021, 06:57:27 pm »
I have a front upper tooth which has decided it's fed up with being in my gob and is about to fall out. The dentist has offered a denture plate or an implant. With great reluctance I decided I'd have to have an implant (Ow much?!) because of regularly breathing from demand valves whilst cave diving. (I'm concerned about the denture plate becoming dislodged during a routine or even emergency valve swap.)

I should mention I'd prefer not to have a bridge fitted, because that involves mauling the two healthy teeth either side of what'll soon become a gap.

However, a mate of mine in the CDG Northern Section who also has an upper denture plate, whose opinion I value greatly, has made me think twice. He says he used to have to take his denture plate out before diving but doesn't now because in recent years they've become so well made it's very secure and he dives with it in all the time.

This is all new territory for me, so I was wondering if any other forum members who are divers have dentures - and whether you could also advise me about the implications of diving with them?

Thanks.

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Re: Dentures and diving; advice sought
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2021, 09:25:23 pm »
Hi,

I have a partial upper plate with my three front teeth. [Consequence of an RTA whilst a teenager]

I've done a decent amount of dives (400ish) almost all open water but fairly technical so I've had to swop regs under water. 

Always dived with my plate in and never had a problem

[If you want I could pm you with an image of my plate for comparison]

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Re: Dentures and diving; advice sought
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2021, 07:50:46 am »
Thanks shortscotsman; that's very helpful. No need to send a picture but I've PM's you anyway.

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Re: Dentures and diving; advice sought
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2021, 09:57:06 am »
I wouldn't dare tell you how to breathe from a reg Pitlamp, but in reality would taking a plate out and leaving a one tooth gap even matter that much when diving? It's not like you are biting onto the reg anyway?


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Re: Dentures and diving; advice sought
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2021, 10:42:28 am »
Hiya Mr J - the problem is I'm gormless enough to lose them, or stand on them or something. So I really don't want to take them out for underwater endeavour.

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Re: Dentures and diving; advice sought
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2021, 10:53:38 am »
It also means taking an extra container to put the dentures in whilst diving; yet more gear to squeeze into an often over-filled tacklebag. Or forget to include in the first place . . .

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Re: Dentures and diving; advice sought
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2021, 02:10:25 pm »
Also, when you finally bust the master sump, and Look North and the press are all stood outside waiting with cameras, the last thing you want to do is pull out your reg and give them a daft 'Billy The Kid' grin. Why not drill a lanyard hole in the back, tie it on to a good back molar and then you can't lose it? ;)

Sorry - I do wear one myself, so it's fair enough, I reckon. Nearly dropped it down a bloody 70m shaft once whilst looking down, talking and smoking simultaneously.

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Re: Dentures and diving; advice sought
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2021, 02:48:27 pm »
I have a front tooth missing. My dentist gave me a 'glue-on' bridge that required no modification of the two teeth either side. He did say that it would probably fall off one day while eating crusty bread but it's still in there something like 10 years later. Might be another option for you.

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Re: Dentures and diving; advice sought
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2021, 04:44:11 pm »
Nobby Stiles became even more famous for the toothless grin,leave it out adds character  ;)
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Re: Dentures and diving; advice sought
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2021, 05:20:11 pm »
It also means taking an extra container to put the dentures in whilst diving; yet more gear to squeeze into an often over-filled tacklebag. Or forget to include in the first place . . .

I am almost convinced you can't fit anything else in that Bergen of yours so fair point.

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Re: Dentures and diving; advice sought
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2021, 07:58:48 pm »
I have a front tooth missing. My dentist gave me a 'glue-on' bridge that required no modification of the two teeth either side. He did say that it would probably fall off one day while eating crusty bread but it's still in there something like 10 years later. Might be another option for you.

That's interesting; is that what's called a "Maryland Bridge"? Properly called a "resin bonded fixed partial denture":

https://www.colgate.com/en-us/oral-health/bridges-and-crowns/maryland-bridges-what-to-know-about-this-tooth-replacement-option

Does anyone else have any experience of these?

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Re: Dentures and diving; advice sought
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2021, 09:06:15 pm »
I’m guessing you have already asked John, but Rob Murgatroyd is probably your man for advice?

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Re: Dentures and diving; advice sought
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2021, 10:21:05 pm »
"Resin bonded fixed partial dentures."  Would these come under the BCAanchor scheme?
"That, of course, is the dangerous part about caves:  you don't know how far they go back, sometimes... or what is waiting for you inside."   JRR Tolkein: "The Hobbit"

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Re: Dentures and diving; advice sought
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2021, 09:39:54 am »
I have a front tooth missing. My dentist gave me a 'glue-on' bridge that required no modification of the two teeth either side. He did say that it would probably fall off one day while eating crusty bread but it's still in there something like 10 years later. Might be another option for you.

That's interesting; is that what's called a "Maryland Bridge"? Properly called a "resin bonded fixed partial denture":

https://www.colgate.com/en-us/oral-health/bridges-and-crowns/maryland-bridges-what-to-know-about-this-tooth-replacement-option

Does anyone else have any experience of these?

That sounds like mine although I never knew the full name.
Great for complete wooses like me who get to the part about 'pain management team' on the implant website and immediately says 'nope!'

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Re: Dentures and diving; advice sought
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2021, 07:14:19 pm »
Aha; can you tell me how long you've had that kind of bridge in Mudman - and are you happy with it?

I've never been too keen on dentists either, after bad experiences when I was a child under the "care" of the Butcher of Blackburn, who I think must have been trained by the Gestapo.

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Re: Dentures and diving; advice sought
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2021, 02:13:40 pm »
I could have sworn I'd had it in for a decade or more but I found a photo of me showing teeth with a gap from October 2014 so it must have been after that. I do remember popping out of the surgery to see a partial eclipse that was happening at the time and the most likely candidate is the one in March 2015. So not as long as I had thought which is really weird, I blame old age.
Saying that though, I have been extremely happy with it. Took a bit of getting use to at first as you end up with a bit of a lump behind the adjacent teeth but not had any trouble with it and it still appears top be rock solid.
Likewise with the bad experiences. A rather sadistic dentist coupled with a profound dislike of toothpaste did for me.

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Re: Dentures and diving; advice sought
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2021, 06:42:10 pm »
That's a great help Mudman; many thanks.

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Re: Dentures and diving; advice sought
« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2021, 02:52:33 pm »
Cannot comment on any diving aspect but having had a front tooth implant (and two others), would say the process was effectively pain free, but rather expensive.
One thing to bear in mind though is the time it takes from start to finish - can be up to say a 6 month process - from consultation, extraction of remaining bit of tooth, let that settle down, placement of the implant that needed circa 3 months to bond properly with the bone and then the final fitting of the crown.

One of the positives of mask or face coverings was it hid the gap!

Very pleased with the final outcome though.


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Re: Dentures and diving; advice sought
« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2021, 04:15:14 pm »
Brilliant - thanks.

I presume you wore a denture meanwhile? Or did you just go "gappy" for 6 months?

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Re: Dentures and diving; advice sought
« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2021, 04:40:08 pm »
Pitlamp, as a slight digression do you remember when Baz Araldited his false tooth in; his dentist was not impressed!

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Re: Dentures and diving; advice sought
« Reply #20 on: October 18, 2021, 04:55:07 pm »
Blimey - I'd forgotten all about that!

It should have gone in his obituary that I wrote. (Maybe it can do, when it's replicated in a certain journal to appear at some future stage?)

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Re: Dentures and diving; advice sought
« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2021, 05:28:15 pm »
Brilliant - thanks.

I presume you wore a denture meanwhile? Or did you just go "gappy" for 6 months?

Out of vanity did splash out on a denture but never really liked it/got used to it until just before the final bit of the implant!

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Re: Dentures and diving; advice sought
« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2021, 05:45:18 pm »
Thanks for the further thoughts. My job often involves speaking to large groups and I need to be able to articulate words well, so I guess a denture meanwhile will be pretty much essential.

My dentist is at Settle and (just a quick plug) they really have been good with me.

 

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