Mossdale Caverns:Many years ago I had the intention of installing a fixed rope partway up the Great Aven as this is one of the few places in the near reaches of the cave which does not flood to the roof. Sadly, I never got around to it but I feel it is worth mentioning now as it would still make a worthwhile project for a locally-based caver and could ultimately help save lives if anyone was ever caught out by flood water between the Marathon crawls and the entrance.
Funnily enough there's an insitu rope attached to the roof of the great aven at present, but! i doubt it stays flood proof,
if i was on my way out and it began to flood at boulder hall i'm hardly gonna rush back the great aven.
I've seen flood debris in the roof of Wretched Rabbit Passage upstream of the climb down from 4-ways chamber - I wouldn't have liked to have been in there last Thursday night for instance. Hypothetically, If the cave was in extreme flood, and I didn't know my way out via Mancs Bypass, I'd certainly choose to sit it out in the high level route.
I also understand that Borrins moor cave may be suitable when Long Churn has too much water (though I don't have experience of this myself).
I also understand that Borrins moor cave may be suitable when Long Churn has too much water (though I don't have experience of this )I have been to Long Churn in flood so we had a look at Borrins. The main entrance and long side passage to the right were almost dry. A small stream at entrance, and thereafter just a few knee deep puddles. Saved an otherwise wasted trip.
Apparently after the big floods in 2005 (I think), the 'tide line' was somewhere below the scaffolding in Kath's Way in Lancaster Hole
Quote from: NigR on January 01, 2008, 10:58:23 pmMossdale Caverns:Many years ago I had the intention of installing a fixed rope partway up the Great Aven as this is one of the few places in the near reaches of the cave which does not flood to the roof. Sadly, I never got around to it but I feel it is worth mentioning now as it would still make a worthwhile project for a locally-based caver and could ultimately help save lives if anyone was ever caught out by flood water between the Marathon crawls and the entrance.Hi Nig - for info - there is a rope installed part way up The Great Aven, - about a third of the way from memory (c12m), would have been installed in the late 1990's. .The top of the aven does look promising - bit the rock was scarily loose. Quote from: Simon Beck on January 02, 2008, 01:33:21 amFunnily enough there's an insitu rope attached to the roof of the great aven at present, but! i doubt it stays flood proof, Has somebody finished off the climb? I wonder what is at the top.....?Quote from: Simon Beck on January 02, 2008, 01:33:21 amif i was on my way out and it began to flood at boulder hall i'm hardly gonna rush back the great aven.regards Beardy