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Offline Iain Barker

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« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2004, 03:55:39 pm »
could be the "Beer Fairy"! :shock:
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« Reply #26 on: June 20, 2004, 12:20:21 am »
Quote from: "Iain Barker"
could be the "Beer Fairy"! :shock:


Gate the fucker quick then!  :shock:

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« Reply #27 on: June 20, 2004, 10:47:52 am »
In reply to Bog - it's a bit early yet for Dawkes Crawl to unwater. John Beck tells me that even in the 1976 drought it was sumped in June. Still early in the year yet, better put a watching brief on it through the summer (if we have one this year!).
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« Reply #28 on: June 23, 2004, 11:33:23 am »
Do you think Critchlow connects, by rifts perhaps, with the mine workings further down the dale ?

Like the publican said - there is a terrific draught.
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« Reply #29 on: June 25, 2004, 08:26:07 am »
Been thinking about other possible dig sites to be revisited - what about Wormhill Springs? Go on a warm day and it's definitely cool cave water. Probably need mechanical assistance.
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« Reply #30 on: April 30, 2005, 08:30:31 am »
Anyone been and had a look at any of this stuff yet

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« Reply #31 on: May 05, 2005, 09:37:58 am »
Had a poke down Ivy Green Cave yesterday. Indeed it is a bold climb to get there. No draught anywhere that i noticed but that is one nice tube. Didn't make it to the very end due to big pool of ming as wearing normal clothes! Will return soon with wellies and oversuit, and possibly a rope!

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« Reply #32 on: May 05, 2005, 02:42:28 pm »
yes rob i do know, and i'll tell you in the pub this evening.
I've probably told you before in fact.

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« Reply #33 on: June 20, 2005, 07:54:30 pm »
Hi

Wormhill Springs is definitly interesting, and has a large catchment. In some respects it is similar to Ilam risings. I suspect, though, that penetration is more likely via sinks than at the resurgence, which is likely to be sumped/shallow for some distance. There aren't obvious sinks to dig though, as the quarry has probably obliterated many, so we may have to wait until it closes....
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« Reply #34 on: June 20, 2005, 08:41:10 pm »
Shute Shelv cavern is being dug again.

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« Reply #35 on: June 21, 2005, 07:19:01 am »
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as the quarry has probably obliterated many, so we may have to wait until it closes....


We do quite a lot of work in the quarry and there is very little of interest to be found,

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« Reply #36 on: May 08, 2012, 09:45:25 pm »
...Those mines like Cockshead where t'awd man reported great water swallows....
Heard from a little birdy that some kids today went down a shaft near here (~80m south of the road, in the trees, under a big boulder). They said it went down ~8m to a rubble filled blockage. Bit of a draft coming out. Maybe "No Name Mine" from the 1953-4 reports from The Stockport Potholers.

They also said they didn't find any open shafts further West along the rake, although there were two quite small shaft tops that were ~50cm deep to rubble blockage. No sign of the ~4ft diameter Cockshead Mine....
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« Reply #37 on: May 09, 2012, 08:51:05 am »
The Big Quarry (Basalt) at the back of water Swallows has a couple of Swallets which they Pumped the water from the quarry into. The first swallow is somewhere under the tipping at the far end of the quarry by the main road there had been a 30 inch pipe to it, which was still visible at the time of the quarry being shut 15 years ago. The pipe was broken by heavy vehicles and as a result the quarry was nearly shut. They found a new Swallow at the opposite corner of the quarry which is in a Concrete Bunker and is still visible. This swallow use to take a lot of water and never backed up except when plastic bags got sucked up by the pump. This water comes out somewhere in the river bed before Wormhll Riseings.

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« Reply #38 on: May 10, 2012, 08:56:27 pm »
Dawkes Crawl (named after a passing caver who was conned into lending Dave Gill a carbide lamp base when own his exploded outside just before the great push). It is a very long crawl, mostly flat out, and ending at some breakdown in a very small passage with the draught howling through it. I don't remember anywhere to sit up or turn round except at the end.

21st August 1976: Diary entry. "Ted (Mullins) and I went to the choke at the end of Dawkes Crawl. It is the most demoralising, claustrophobic crawl I have ever been in and we worked for a long time, removing three fair sized boulders. We advanced about 7ft, but could not move any more material. We crawled exhaustedly away."

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« Reply #39 on: May 10, 2012, 09:00:29 pm »
Ooops!  Just noticed how long this thread has been going! The query about Dawkes Crawl was YEARS ago!

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« Reply #40 on: May 17, 2016, 11:30:06 am »
Topic revived again :)

Petra's cave in Eldon Quarry- the amount of waterworn rock above Petra's on some of the levels above is reasonably good. whether Petra's is a continuation of these (sadly now lost to quarrying) or another cave feeding into natural beyond.
 (It's also a reasonably easy evening dig, drag trays already in from the credit crunchers, and only 5 or so minutes from the car) Infinite stacking space in the quarry.
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« Reply #41 on: June 12, 2017, 01:28:28 pm »
Wormhill...

A mate & I ventured up the dale behing the springs along time ago, looking for likely spots to do some earth-moving. Someone had been digging a likely looking spot partway up the dale, 1/2 - 2/3s way up the left hand slope. Don't know how that turned out. We moved a bunch of rock out of another entrance, again on the left, near the head of the dale (does a footpath cross there?).

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« Reply #42 on: June 12, 2017, 02:56:15 pm »
Hi Cryptic,

I think you're referring to the cross in Red in flag dale on the Path, I will have to do a bit of Searching, but this keeps cropping up on this forum, it's at the bottom end of the Nature Conservation zone, with the Area updale (north West) being strictly off limits to everyone.
 The blue Cross is another interesting dig site, i'll get back later, but it's on the upper end of the conservation zone (just inside the fence).
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Re: Digging, Things that should be looked at again ?
« Reply #43 on: June 12, 2017, 03:00:01 pm »
We dug that in the early 60's. Iirc it connects with something in Flag Dale which maybe part mined, part natural just around the corner so to speak.

Imho modern digging techniques would repay.

Linen Dale cave , if you can get access.
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« Reply #44 on: June 12, 2017, 03:48:30 pm »
Hi Cryptic,

I think you're referring to the cross in Red in flag dale on the Path, I will have to do a bit of Searching, but this keeps cropping up on this forum, it's at the bottom end of the Nature Conservation zone, with the Area updale (north West) being strictly off limits to everyone.
 The blue Cross is another interesting dig site, i'll get back later, but it's on the upper end of the conservation zone (just inside the fence).

I've edited this out - because was reading map incorrectly...
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« Reply #45 on: June 12, 2017, 05:18:18 pm »

Derbyshire Hall in nettle?
Lloyds shaft in Eldon?
Bottom of the Abyse in Rowter?

All going somewhere!

Hows quarters going - you still digging it regular like.

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« Reply #46 on: June 12, 2017, 05:30:44 pm »
Hi Cryptic,

I think you're referring to the cross in Red in flag dale on the Path, I will have to do a bit of Searching, but this keeps cropping up on this forum, it's at the bottom end of the Nature Conservation zone, with the Area updale (north West) being strictly off limits to everyone.
 The blue Cross is another interesting dig site, i'll get back later, but it's on the upper end of the conservation zone (just inside the fence).

Approximations...

The red cross is where we pulled some out - as I recall it was a rift with a crawl in, opened out to standing height inside. Deads stacked along the left wall.

Blue cross - was a dig under a hawthorn bush into a step in the dale side - no idea how that worked out - didn't ever have a look inside.

We had aspirations of dropping into something behind the springs.
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« Reply #47 on: June 12, 2017, 08:03:59 pm »
Blue cross - was a dig under a hawthorn bush into a step in the dale side - no idea how that worked out - didn't ever have a look inside.

We had aspirations of dropping into something behind the springs.

When I had a look at "blue cross" it looked like it had promise and when viewed after some  snow did not appear to have as much as the surrounding area. Would need permission though.
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« Reply #48 on: June 12, 2017, 08:42:00 pm »

When I had a look at "blue cross" it looked like it had promise and when viewed after some snow did not appear to have as much as the surrounding area. Would need permission though.

Out of interest - where would that permission come from?
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« Reply #49 on: June 13, 2017, 09:40:42 am »
Linen Dale cave , if you can get access.

I did some digging at Linen Dale too, many years ago. At that point, it looked very much like the entrance crawl had arrived at a pot full of glacial till.

Anyone know if any further work was done?
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