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Longest through trip without diving?
« on: October 17, 2021, 04:57:29 pm »
As the title suggests, what's the longest through trip in the uk without diving? I'm assuming Wales somewhere.

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Re: Longest through trip without diving?
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2021, 05:11:07 pm »
Top Sink to Bye George?

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Re: Longest through trip without diving?
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2021, 06:06:10 pm »
Are you including mine through trips?

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Re: Longest through trip without diving?
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2021, 06:08:20 pm »
Are you including mine through trips?

And if so, does that include canoeing?

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Re: Longest through trip without diving?
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2021, 06:15:30 pm »
Are you including mine through trips?

And if so, does that include canoeing?
And if you mean that one would you count it as if "longer" if you dropped down the shaft rather than walk in the usual entrance?
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Re: Longest through trip without diving?
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2021, 07:07:28 pm »
What do you mean by "longest"?
  • time taken for a competent party moving reasonably briskly
  • as the crow flies from where you enter to where you exit
  • actual distance covered underground
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Re: Longest through trip without diving?
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2021, 07:34:39 pm »
Ohhhh wow, lots of good replies and questions..

Firstly a mine with a canoe......... Tell me more.

Secondly. I dunno really, I'm keen for an epic. So how about longest in length as an option and longest in time as an option

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Re: Longest through trip without diving?
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2021, 07:43:57 pm »
I think the canoe reference is for the Milwr Tunnel.

I suggest The Great Nenthead Traverse for a starter. I think that's about 6 miles?

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Re: Longest through trip without diving?
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2021, 08:11:53 pm »
Firstly a mine with a canoe......... Tell me more.

I did the Croesor to Rhosydd through trip yesterday.

There is a canoe with a pulley system to pull it back and forth. You abseil down to it at the start.

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Re: Longest through trip without diving?
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2021, 08:25:16 pm »
Find a big big pillar and stall mine and walk ever passage  :thumbsup:

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Re: Longest through trip without diving?
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2021, 08:30:32 pm »
Croesor to Rhosydd isn't the longest, or the most epic -- but if the measure was based on smiles-per-mile, it may just be the winner
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Re: Longest through trip without diving?
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2021, 08:57:30 pm »
I think the canoe reference is for the Milwr Tunnel.
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Done it twice  and definitely wins the smile factor
Not really a canoe but a inflatable

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Re: Longest through trip without diving?
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2021, 09:12:33 pm »
Thanks guys. I have plenty to read about and research now 😊😊😊😊

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Re: Longest through trip without diving?
« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2021, 01:05:07 pm »
The longest on Mendip must be priddy green sink to swildons, although you usually park by the former to get to the later! Portland - Ariel to sandy hole?

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Re: Longest through trip without diving?
« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2021, 01:27:41 pm »
Find a big big pillar and stall mine and walk ever passage  :thumbsup:

Dinas Rock Silica Mine perhaps?

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Re: Longest through trip without diving?
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2021, 01:29:30 pm »
Box would be a good start for that at 50km (or is it miles). But it's small compared to some newer ironstone mines.

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Re: Longest through trip without diving?
« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2021, 01:35:52 pm »
Dinas Rock Silica Mine perhaps?
You'd have to dive though to get a decent distance...

& not sure any of the box entrances are that far apart (on surface or underground - that you are able to use, anyway)

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Re: Longest through trip without diving?
« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2021, 01:54:55 pm »
I suggest The Great Nenthead Traverse for a starter. I think that's about 6 miles?

It's quoted at 9.25km on Mr Mike's website, which would be about 5.7 miles. Certainly got to be a good contender and pretty much accessible all year around.

Ease Gill Traverse must be up there too, but the Wormway is unlikely to be passable any time soon if the weather in the Dales has been anything like it's been down here the last few days...

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Re: Longest through trip without diving?
« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2021, 03:14:44 pm »
Pillar and stall mines there's one within cycling distance of me near Facit which is meant to be 120 miles long. I have been in there and it is definitely big but not certain it's 120 miles long. It does have other entrances so you could do a through trip.

As for longest through trip back in the caving world I would guess Top sink to Peterson, I think pip would be less distance looking at the survey.
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Re: Longest through trip without diving?
« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2021, 03:19:34 pm »
As for longest through trip back in the caving world I would guess Top sink to Peterson, I think pip would be less distance looking at the survey.

Not Top Sink to Bye George, then?

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Re: Longest through trip without diving?
« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2021, 03:20:04 pm »
How about entering Daren Cilau, digging the final few meters into Agen Allwedd and exiting from there? That must be a fair way.

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Re: Longest through trip without diving?
« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2021, 03:33:38 pm »
In the Peak the longest i can think of would be going in Milldam Mine in Great Hucklow and coming out of Moorwood Sough in Stoney Middleton = 6.1km as the bird flies and probably twice that as the bat flies.

You'd get extra points for getting permission to complete it!
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Re: Longest through trip without diving?
« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2021, 04:06:09 pm »
Milwr Tunnel is about 11 miles if you go down cae Mawr (600ft) and come out at the portal in Bagillt

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Re: Longest through trip without diving?
« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2021, 09:36:42 pm »
You'd get extra points for getting permission to complete it!

I've done a permission trip a quarter-way in, and a no-permission trip from the sough to within 50m from the entrance gate - does that count? The twin-props would be a bit of an obstacle now :)

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Re: Longest through trip without diving?
« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2021, 01:13:15 pm »
How about entering Daren Cilau, digging the final few meters into Agen Allwedd and exiting from there? That must be a fair way.

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Or, if we're talking about future possibilities ... If the three major Llangattock caves are joined up and one of the old digs at Craig y Castell connected into Aggy, then you could have a mega through trip.

In at Craig y Castell, through the Summertime Series, down Turkey and Main Streamways, along Priory Road (most likely area for dry connection), into the back end of Daren, zigzag through Daren - down to Hardrock, back up the Bonsai and Time Machine to Big Chamber, then down Epocalypse into the start of Antler (nearest point to OCAF - don't know if a connection is possible here. Other possible point of connection could be Busman's to 5th Choke in OCAF), into the Promised Land and then make your way down through the cave and out into the Clydach Gorge.

Something for future generations to aspire to!  :)

 

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