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Re: Discussion of Daily Mail and other newspapers
« Reply #25 on: November 21, 2021, 07:23:41 pm »
That's as lazy as classifying all people who voted for Brexit as being idiots.

 :lol: well that generalisation is so widespread as to be treated as factual!

Chris.

Politician's trick that.

Repeat an untruth enough times.... :lol:

It’s not unintuitive to conclude that Brexit might be negative for some (people who want cheaper labour) and positive for others (people supplying labour who want it to more expensive). It might well be worse (or otherwise) overall, but for sure there will be millions who think they might get a pay rise (and more attention from London) and would give it a shot. It’s not that stupid. I don’t even work, so for me higher wages only hurt - but I can live with that if it is going in someone's pocket. I have little time for elite media commentators who like their serfs to be cheap and completely expendable. The Guardian keeps running articles about the appalling shortages of au-pairs, nannies and cleaners. But on the upside one journo was thrilled she could once again fly to NY to do her Xmas shopping. Oink.

Most current estimates are suggesting it will be in the noise either way, so in the end it will be down to qualitative issues. My view is that it is in no-ones interest for the UK to be meaningfully divorced from the EU, and that the UK will eventually get what it wanted (free trade with minimal other stuff). The French twigged this up front, and their elite is absolutely popping (hence the comments from their PM recently). But no-one ever lost their seat for goading the French (and indeed vice-versa).

A great deal is made of the EU being about keeping the peace, and it probably does that. But what they really mean is it’s a vehicle to stop the Germans periodically slaughtering their neighbours, which is why Thatcher opposed German unification and the Germans had to agree to the Euro to get it. The Germans are now owed an absolute ton of money as a result by other countries who have no intention of ever paying it back. The UK leaving has indeed made it much worse for Germany politically and they recently had to agree to pool liabilities for the first time. I voted Remain to keep the Germans under control, so here’s hoping the French are up to it on their own, but it’s looking ropey.

All good clean fun, and I imagine someone will write a book about it some day.

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Re: Discussion of Daily Mail and other newspapers
« Reply #26 on: November 21, 2021, 07:41:17 pm »
What most people forget / never knew is that it was only "Following the Napoleonic Wars and the dissolution of the Holy Roman Empire in 1806, the German Confederation was formed in 1815. In 1871, Germany became a nation-state when most of the German states unified into the Prussian-dominated German Empire. After World War I and the German Revolution of 1918–1919, the Empire was replaced by the semi-presidential Weimar Republic." So before that it was England & France that were the bigger threats to world peace.

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Re: Discussion of Daily Mail and other newspapers
« Reply #27 on: November 21, 2021, 09:06:54 pm »
A great deal is made of the EU being about keeping the peace, and it probably does that.

Interestingly (to me anyway!) is that a significant part of the reason I voted to leave is that I predict that ultimately the collapse of the EU will be catastrophic and cause the next war on the continent. I wanted our descendants to have some (small) choice about how to get involved (or remain neutral).

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Re: Discussion of Daily Mail and other newspapers
« Reply #28 on: November 21, 2021, 09:18:31 pm »
OT I know... Might not have to wait that long if what the Russians are doing around the border of Ukraine are correct. All depends on what Biden does in respsonse, whether Putin has the stomach for a hot war, and whether we are America's poodle once more.

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Re: Discussion of Daily Mail and other newspapers
« Reply #29 on: November 21, 2021, 09:55:13 pm »
They'll more than likely give each each other Covid before they get around to invading anyone. I suspect he's all mouth and no trousers. And he probably wants the gas pipeline more than a conflict which will destroy his country economically. For the first time I can remember, most world leaders actually seem to be behind the curve at the moment, and are struggling to keep up with developments, they're so fast. Which is good, as most of them are just sad losers with a criminal background, and we could well do without them. Co-operation really is the only way out of all these problems, no matter how hard they don't want it.


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Re: Discussion of Daily Mail and other newspapers
« Reply #31 on: November 22, 2021, 11:20:56 pm »
Hahahah - that's just - well, hilarious.

“Although he will not be involved in day-to-day editing, he will be taking an active role advising me and the editors,” Rothermere said.

That sounds difficult, I must say. I thought these people were already experts in publishing? And isn't 42 years of 'advice' more than sufficient, rather than them needing to pay him again and again for the same 'advice'? Honestly, Crossroads had better plots than this, and better acting.

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Re: Discussion of Daily Mail and other newspapers
« Reply #32 on: November 23, 2021, 07:46:25 am »
"Keep your friends close & your enemies closer..." (those who can cause you harm)
« Last Edit: November 23, 2021, 08:00:14 am by mikem »

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Re: Discussion of Daily Mail and other newspapers
« Reply #33 on: November 23, 2021, 10:16:32 am »
Hmmm...I know what you mean...


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Re: Discussion of Daily Mail and other newspapers
« Reply #34 on: November 23, 2021, 06:32:47 pm »
Dacre is not going to Ofcom:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10222441/Former-Daily-Mail-editor-Paul-Dacre-blasts-liberal-civil-servants-quits-Ofcom-chairman-race.html

I wonder where he is going - maybe GB News?

Chris.

Back to the Mail, apparently.

Or at least, the parent company.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/nov/22/paul-dacre-appointed-editor-in-chief-of-daily-mail-parent-company

That's a relief. The Mail had moved so far to the left it was practically the same as the Guardian. Hopefully normality can be restored.

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